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To: ansel12
"As to why I think libertarians are nuts to favor mass uncontrolled immigration from the third world: I think they are nuts because their enthusiasm on this matter is suicidal to their cause. Their ideological passion is blinding them to a rather obvious fact: that libertarianism is a peculiarly American doctrine, with very little appeal to the huddled masses of the third world. If libertarianism implies mass third-world immigration, then it is self-destroying. Libertarianism is simply not attractive either to illiterate peasants from mercantilist Latin American states, or to East Asians with traditions of imperial-bureaucratic paternalism, or to the products of Middle Eastern Muslim theocracies."--John Derbyshire

Closing the open door

Let me caution you...don't say "I'm pretending" when I made it clear there are different strains of libertarianism and I'm simply stating the fact some libertarians oppose open borders and some are fully in support of open borders like the Cato Institute. I would point out that they did change the Libertarian Platform 2006 on immigration: Ensure immigration requirements include only appropriate documentation, screening for criminal background and threats to public health and national security. Simplifying the immigration process and redeployment of surveillance technology to focus on the borders will encourage the use of regular and monitored entry points, thus preventing trespass and saving lives. End federal requirements that benefits and services be provided to those in the country illegally. Repeal all measures that punish employers for hiring undocumented workers. Repeal all immigration quotas.
30 posted on 05/11/2009 9:23:46 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"I would point out that they did change the Libertarian Platform 2006 on immigration: Ensure immigration requirements include only appropriate documentation, screening for criminal background and threats to public health and national security."

All they did was conceal some of their agenda and soften the language so that it would give more wiggle room on forums and when trying to win converts.

After using clear language for so many years this is how they word it in the 2008 platform. Using the smoke screen of being able to stop an individual as an argument that they don't support totally open borders.

Immigration: 3.4 Free Trade and Migration

"We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a threat to security, health or property.

32 posted on 05/11/2009 9:33:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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