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I look around at my county GOP. Conservative. My district GOP, the same. My state GOP? The moderates have their wing but they’ve gone by the wayside. Right now the socons are dominant to the point of damaging the party. Then there are us three legged conservatives stuck in between. What RINO’s are you talking about?

I look at many other states. Conservative. Do we have moderates at the national level? Yes. Do they have power? Yes. But not all the power everywhere. There is a fight going on constantly at all levels. I’m not going to accept your inane accusations backed up by no facts. If you want to pontificate, run for Pope (no offense Catholics, tongue in cheek here).

As far as what I see at FR is a great number of whiners and naysayers and far fewer of the doers. Keyboard activism. Useless. Utterly useless. You want to get things done you need a vehicle that’s a part of the process, and that process is getting people elected. I don’t care what vehicle you choose, but choose a vehicle. Sitting on the keyboard at FR is not that vehicle. That is less than worthless.

The moderates have their wing but they’ve gone by the wayside.

Oh really? Tell that to the OP national leadership. They have ensured Conservative principles have gone by the wayside.

Do we have moderates at the national level? Yes. Do they have power? Yes.

That couldn't be more of an understatement. They control the OP otherwise you and other OP members would not have to keep posting at a Conservative website trying to convince Conservatives to support the OP! Moderate is euphemistic spin for socialist.

As far as what I see at FR is a great number of whiners and naysayers and far fewer of the doers.

Hey, that's a great recruitment slogan to woo over Conservatives to your side! It's also another indication of deep denial by OP members your party is becoming more irrelevant to Conservatives because they realize beating your Republican head against the growing socialist wall is doing or accomplishing nothing.

Keyboard activism. Useless. Utterly useless.

Then why do you keep posting to this thread and website? Obviously you believe it's only keyboard activism if someone has a dissenting viewpoint but your views are more cogent and therefore above your so called keyboard activism. It wrongly presumes anyone who opposes to your OP baloney is not active beyond FR even though you don't know the person to whom you are responding. It further belittles FR as if communicating via this website to share ideas and further the cause of Conservatism is a useless and irrelevant tool. Spoken like a true big tent Republican.

You want to get things done you need a vehicle that’s a part of the process, and that process is getting people elected.

If the people you are referring to are similar to the OP socialist elitists you elected in the past then it's time for you and other OP members to drive that vehicle to the scrap heap. A new process is emerging and it's saying time to create a new vehicle with strong conservative principles and no more OP. You can keep on anointing yourselves the great and powerful OZ but more Conservative are seeing what's behind the curtain.

I don’t care what vehicle you choose, but choose a vehicle.

Conservatives have been telling you repeatedly the vehicle they are going to drive but you refuse to accept taking a ride because of your delusion some how you're going to suddenly oust the socialist leaders in the OP.