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To: a fool in paradise
I personnally don't condone the use of any of this, by anyone.

There was a time when this Nation had some moral fiber. It seems we are all past that now.

48 posted on 05/08/2009 2:31:57 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
You compare this with Nuremberg which tried those who pursued the torture and massacre of innocent people?

Far from a good parallel.

This was the instigator of 9/11 we're talking about. Who had info which ended up helping us with 50% of our anti-Al Queda activities.

In addition, the strong-arming of the guy had NO permanent damage done thus, it was NOT torture...it merely caused acute discomfort.

Get your priorities straight.

53 posted on 05/08/2009 2:37:26 PM PDT by what's up
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To: GingisK

The CIA has never, until now, had to follow Army SOP when interrogating terrorist. That is why this information was supposed to remain “secret”. There’s a lot of things we still don’t know what the CIA does and hopefully it remains that way.


54 posted on 05/08/2009 2:38:24 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: GingisK
I personnally don't condone the use of any of this, by anyone.

And now to the real world - it's Sept 11 and it's a beautiful day.....


61 posted on 05/08/2009 2:56:02 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: GingisK
I personnally don't condone the use of any of this, by anyone. There was a time when this Nation had some moral fiber. It seems we are all past that now.

Oh, you mean like in G Washington's army when they would set AWOL soldiers on a board(spread legs on the edge of a board, documented)for hours as punishment? This was just for our own troops. We have always used "enhanced interrogation techniques" to get info from prisoners when minutes counted and we used to be a lot rougher than water boarding. If anything we were more moralistic to prisoners during the Bush administration(and believe me I am no great fan of GW)than at any other time in history.

Water boarding, sacring people and subjecting them to cold and other psychological methods are not torture and we don't use them against all prisoners, only those we suspect have information that will save AMERICAN lives. Treatment of prisoners by the USA is far more humane than any other nation. Go to Gitmo see for yourself.

You are either incredibly naive or you are a troll, take your pick.

89 posted on 05/08/2009 3:45:47 PM PDT by calex59
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To: GingisK
Which is the more moral stance? Or not doing everything you can to get the information and letting them die because you won't use torture?
106 posted on 05/08/2009 5:59:16 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: GingisK
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Which is the more moral stance?

Torturing a person who has knowledge about blowing up a bus load of school children, because the person will not talk, and saving 40 children, a teacher, and a bus driver.

Or not doing everything you can to get the information and letting them die because you won't use torture?

113 posted on 05/08/2009 6:06:15 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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