[a fool in paradise]

Waterboarding WAS lawful. Until Obama decided otherwise.

There was a legal decision on its application.

[Eva]

Evidently the Obama administration and the Holder justice dept. agree with the Bybee definition of what constitutes torture because they sited it as precedent in defense of the US position on the extradition of Demjanjuk. Demjanjuk's lawyers claimed in a law suit that the extradition to Germany would constitute torture because of the methods of questioning the Demjanjuk would be subjected to. The Holder defense was that no the methods that would be used would not constitute torture under the Bybee definition.

So, I guess it's settled Obama supports the Bush use of water boarding, right?

[GingisK]

...Waterboarding WAS lawful...

In my humble opinion, therein lies the shame.

I was taught by the US Army that the United States does not mistreat prisoners. Period. Uncouth individuals will do so, but it will never be policy.

Mistreatment of captives is immoral, reprehensible, and cowardly.

Now I expect the deluge of "anything is OK as long as you find out something we need to know." I stand the high ground, nevertheless.

During the Nuremberg Trials, we insisted that "orders" was no excuse for inhumane behavior. It should have remained that way.

[R0CK3T]

Yeah - its pretty easy to see the Socialist political strategy at work here. Everything that the Socialists disagree with is now colored with the following types of description by design that is intended to incite:

- Torture

- Criminal (anything and everything W)

- Hate (fill in your issue of choice)

- Environment Destroying

- Bigoted/Anti-Immigrant/Nazi

Torture appears to now be the new incendiary descriptive word of choice.

Whether of not that is what it actually is - is completely immaterial.