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Alan Keyes among 21 arrested at Notre Dame
WGN ^ | 5/8/09 | Liam Ford

Posted on 05/08/2009 11:56:37 AM PDT by KLT

Edited on 05/08/2009 12:41:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: LibertyRocks

I had a feeling you were sensing the difference between civil disobedience and private property rights. I wish they had protested on public property.

You have a good “angle” as well. Those at Notre Dame that are pro-life (as you said, students, faculty, donors, alumni, etc.) need to organize and protest as well. They have the “keys to the city”, so to speak. Good idea, LibertyRocks.


241 posted on 05/08/2009 9:36:09 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: JennysCool
"I'm sorry, but I think that kind of stuff isn't useful at all. It just turns people off, rather than changing hearts and minds."

I'm sorry but your way has already been tried for over 40 years...and it hasn't changed a thing.

I don't buy the sweetness and denial approach any longer. It's time to get loud and real.

No one benefits from ignoring the gruesomeness of abortion. If people are concerned about the children...then don't take them to an abortion protest.

242 posted on 05/08/2009 9:36:47 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: KLT

Alan Keyes is in jail and President Obama is commencement addressing at Notre Dame -— LOL @ America.


243 posted on 05/08/2009 9:54:32 PM PDT by shetlan (What 's up America?)
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To: shetlan

Kinda backwards isn’t it?


244 posted on 05/08/2009 9:56:12 PM PDT by KLT (A damn Yankee, from the great state of Mississippi....Go Freepers Go!)
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To: ninergold3

Alan Keyes walks the walk. I wish more Republicans were like him.


245 posted on 05/08/2009 10:32:48 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: Frantzie

For the record, Alan Keyes left the Republican Party last year. He is affiliated with America’s Independent Party.


246 posted on 05/08/2009 10:35:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

247 posted on 05/08/2009 10:36:14 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: CaribouCrossing

It’s not like they came to protest at your house. They were simply walking onto the grounds of a major university, one which has no problem identifying itself as Catholic, making tremendous merchandise out of that famous identification. It is run by priests who are completely under the authority of their Church, supposedly. That Church decries the evil of abortion, and Barack Obama is the most prominent and powerful propagator of abortion on the planet. Inviting him would be as if the NAACP decided to invite and honor the head of the KKK. Think maybe someone would get upset at that?

People are technically wrong in calling this civil disobedience. The protesters are not challenging an unjust law, per se, even though it is taking place in the larger context of the abortion holocaust. They are in the first case here protesting the actions of their own Church in allowing honors to be bestowed on someone who is not in the least honorable. And those who operate under the authority of their own Church had them arrested.


248 posted on 05/08/2009 10:48:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: RasterMaster

Great graphic!


249 posted on 05/08/2009 10:52:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: KLT

Update on Notre Dame Arrests from Patrick Flynn, AIP of Michigan Chairman, who was arrested today with Dr. Keyes, and then falsely accused of battery as he was being processed out.

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4467&posts=3#M13351

I know this man, and it DID NOT happen. The petty little tyrants are simply looking for any excuse to characterize the protests as violent in some way.


250 posted on 05/08/2009 10:56:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I tremble for my country when I consider that God is just.")
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To: KLT

Well, you know if Keyes had beaten Obama in 04, it could have been him in the WH today and making that commencement speech.


251 posted on 05/08/2009 10:59:48 PM PDT by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: wagglebee
Just got here and read this! WOW! Prayers up!! I read the stuff and it made me laugh....they only allow student body groups APPROVED by them to protest! Like they would approve it?! Think not!! More interesting....the police show up OFF CAMPUS to tell/ warn/ threaten Dr Keyes??!!!! Like, what, that was a favor?!

In their efforts to thwart trouble (sarc), instead they have fed what they feared. They have now increased public awareness of the whole mess they have created and added to it a public icon. Sometimes in their stupidity, people create that which they feared, by their own reaction. WOOO-HOOO! Notre Dame scored again, this time, against themselves. They forgot which end their goal was at. Gotta love it!

God be with Dr Keyes and all those who were arrested. Father God, open the eyes of the blind people of this republic to see the glaring truth of Obama and his administration before it is too late. Lord, stop them in their tracks. Have mercy on America! In Jesus Name AMEN!

252 posted on 05/08/2009 11:20:06 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: EternalVigilance

While Rome burns, Pontius Nero DUh-bama washes his hands....


253 posted on 05/08/2009 11:24:04 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: deport

The picture I see here is hardly inflamatory. The right has been nuanced to a Perry Como response to the Marxist
governing elite.

What is outrageous is Notre Dame inviting the Creep in chief.


254 posted on 05/09/2009 1:37:51 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: JennysCool

“It just turns people off,”

BDS turned people off, but it still won them the election. When people see genuine outrage, they think maybe there’s something to be outraged about.

Plus, taking abortion to the streets is causing a massive culture shift with regards to its acceptability.


255 posted on 05/09/2009 3:57:33 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Same is true in this war against abortion. Every tactic makes it’s contribution. These blood covered carriages are perhaps the flamethrower equivalents. Very gruesome, revolting perhaps even to those who are pushing them, and possibly more effective than we can imagine.

The gruesome photos change more minds than any arguments, which is why the pro-death crowd reacts so violently against them.

There's nothing wrong with this tactic per se, as you've said. And it's far better to be doing something, than nothing at all.

256 posted on 05/09/2009 4:12:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me knowr)
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To: CaribouCrossing
Alan Keyes knew in advance that he would be arrested by breaking this university’s rules. And yet, this same man gives fine lectures on the rule of law.

There is no contradiction here at all. Alan was simply engaging in civil disobedience. He realizes that laws against trespassing are licit, and he was willing to go to jail for trespassing. But he also understands that Notre Dame is violating a much higher law, the honoring of someone dedicated to the destruction of innocent human life, and he was engaging in a tactic which he thought was suitable in opposition.

Is this an example of the ends justifying the means? No, because Alan's act of trespassing was not intrinsically evil, but simply a violation of a civil (practical) law, somewhat analogous to speeding on the way to the hospital.

257 posted on 05/09/2009 4:20:29 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me knowr)
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To: Theodore R.
H.L. Mencken once said that in a university the word “conscience” is that “little voice that says your funding might be jeopardized”.

That'll leave a mark. Mencken was right on that one.

258 posted on 05/09/2009 4:22:22 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me knowr)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Bravo for Keyes, this isn’t any less important than the march on Selma was.

The lack of support from blacks is ironic, considering the fact that black babies are aborted at a higher rate than white babies.

259 posted on 05/09/2009 5:01:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me knowr)
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To: RasterMaster

Excellent, Raster. With your permission, I’m stealin’ that...


260 posted on 05/09/2009 5:19:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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