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To: steve-b
No, indeed, I find that using the armed agents of the State to coerce compliance with the values that I hold dear violates those values. I can only demand the same liberty for myself that I am prepared to grant to others.

Since that liberty includes the freedom to speak in the public square, I hope to persuade others that there indeed are long term benefits to observing the Sabbath. Even so, I realize that each person must accept this truth as a matter of free will.

This is why it is essential that we get our children out of the government run indoctrination centers. Aside from their high costs, fewer and fewer are able to get away with teaching Biblical values. More and more, values that are hostile to those found in the Bible are advocated, and reinforced by peer pressure.

This also extends to both the accreditation apparatus, where a school must be given approval by the very libertine and progressive edu-crat establishment who firmly control the public school system.

Yes, liberalism in the modern progressive sense, is at war with Judeao-Christian values. Those who treasure and understand the later must take away every advantage their opposing forces have.

Happily, the present administration's high level of spending has scared a lot of nominal leftists. Maybe now is the best time in a generation to press for the case of smaller government. This worked for me, for in a conversation with an advocate of big government who got scared by the deficits, I remarked that being able to print an borrow an unlimited amount of money allows governments to go to a war that the public does not support. He almost jumped out of his chair, almost yelling, “that illegal war!”, by which he meant Bush and Iraq. I almost could not contain my laughter, for finally a big spending progressive saw the danger of big government.

It is time to restrain Leviathan, for even those who normally are glad to see the beast intervene for causes they cheer are getting nervous about the cost of feeding the beast.

52 posted on 05/08/2009 10:05:52 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
When it comes to Leviathan, we ain't seen nothing yet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/09/AR2009040904063.html

War has been declared on our faith, our traditions, our culture, and our institutions.

53 posted on 05/08/2009 2:20:26 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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