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Band of centrists forming for Senate GOP in 2010
The Hill ^ | 05/06/09 | Aaron Blake and Reid Wilson

Posted on 05/07/2009 12:03:33 PM PDT by calcowgirl

For those writing Republican centrism’s obituary after Arlen Specter’s party switch, holster your quills.

In fact, if the next few weeks go well for the GOP, it might pave the way for a whole new chapter in the left flank of the right-leaning party.

The month of May will be huge, recruiting-wise, for Senate Republicans, with decisions expected from several big-name candidates, including Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, Rep. Mark Kirk (Ill.) and possibly Rep. Mike Castle (Del.).

All would instantly be formidable — with Crist and Castle favored at the outset — and all are noted centrists. They would not only give Republicans a chance to win again, but give Republican centrists a chance to be a force again.

Kirk and Castle routinely rank among the top handful of GOP centrists in the House, and Crist and Ridge are already drawing heat from some conservatives for their decidedly middle-of-the-road records as governors.

But those aren’t the only potential GOP candidates with centrist credentials. Two possibilities in New York — former Gov. George Pataki and Rep. Pete King — are also strong examples, as would be former Sen. John Sununu in New Hampshire if he runs. Former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina is strongly indicating that she’ll run in California, and Rep. Jim Gerlach is considering running in Pennsylvania.

Indeed, it seems almost every Republican recruit who will have any chance of winning this cycle will be a centrist.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010; castle; centrists; crist; fiorina; gerlach; gop; liberals; moderates; nc4na; ncna; pataki; ridge; rinos; rmsp; specter
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To: Deb
How many more McCain disasters do you want?
121 posted on 05/07/2009 2:05:18 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: what's up
I was giving these 2 liberal bastions as examples of trends in their states

San Francisco has 477,000 registered voters out of 17 million state wide. It is an indicator of how the far-left votes, not much else.

122 posted on 05/07/2009 2:06:33 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

They don't want to see.

123 posted on 05/07/2009 2:07:12 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: misterrob

“You cannot get the platform out into play if you don’t win.”

But if you win without putting the platform into play, there’s no point. Like I said, at that point you might as well be Democrats.

“If getting it together and doing nothing more then you are a think tank.”

Obviously, you try to win, and hope that eventually you will be the majority party. But if being the majority party is priority one, and ideas don’t matter, once again, I have to ask what’s the point? Beyond the interests of the individual office-holders, and the people who expect to benefit from their rule? If political parties are about power and nothing else, if they’re not about ideas first, I don’t care who wins.


124 posted on 05/07/2009 2:09:18 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: CharlesWayneCT
So, you think a candidate who said he would grant amnesty to illegals would get the support of people here at FR?

Strawman. I don't think Reagan would support the amnesty plans being touted today given that Congress obliterated the enforcement actions in his amnesty legislation. We learned -- and he learned.

125 posted on 05/07/2009 2:09:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: misterrob
You cannot get the platform out into play if you don’t win.

Really? The Rats always seem to be able to advance their agenda when they're in the minority.

126 posted on 05/07/2009 2:11:43 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Deb
More pearls of wisdom from the McKlintock malcontents.

How's Arnie working out for you Deb?

127 posted on 05/07/2009 2:12:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: misterrob

Don’t put words in my mouth, Bob. I’ve stated my positions clearly on this forum for years. Your childish antics are the actions of a pundit without a message. Troll for talking points with someone else.

Now I’m gone... can only type on an iPhone for so long. I expect you’ll take another cheap shot... so be it. You’ll be talking to yourself.


128 posted on 05/07/2009 2:12:46 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: calcowgirl

” it seems almost every Republican recruit who will have any chance of winning this cycle will be a centrist.”

Just love getting “helpful” advice from someone who wants
to defeat you.


129 posted on 05/07/2009 2:13:26 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: BooBoo1000
People want a bigger government, after we get elected we can start to reduce the Government. Do just what the Dems do only do it louder, something for everyone,chicken in every pot.

So, we can become the party of liars? Wow--what a concept!

Then when we retake the House Senate and President we can do as we please.

We had control of the House and Senate. How did that work out with all the RINO programs enacted?

130 posted on 05/07/2009 2:14:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl
"Here is the 1980 Presidential Election map. San Francisco is the tiny, tiny, tiny little blue blip. Reagan lost in only three counties. San Francisco is NOT an indicator of how California as a whole thinks or votes.

Gosh. I wish someone would roust all those Reagan voters from their very long naps. Someone needs to tell them that Barbara Boxer and Diane Fienstien are their Senators, and have been for over 15 years. But, you're right. They've those Reagan voters have probably been voting for Feinstein and Boxer because the Republican challengers haven't been "Reagan" enough for their tastes. That makes sense.

Incidentally, while SF may be a small, but densely populated city (the most densely populated in CA), SF's metro area has over 4.2 million, over 10% of the total California population. I wonder how many didn't vote for Obama.

131 posted on 05/07/2009 2:14:54 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: misterrob

“I asked you to tell us how you would go about getting candidates elected in less than conservative districts and you can’t”

From the perspective of Republicans who don’t care about their party being conservative or not conservatives, the answer is to run less than conservative candidates. But who cares about them? Seriously, who cares about the Republican party winning seats as such, if they aren’t going to govern conservatively? Why should we be giving advice to the party if it’s not going to do what we want them to do, i.e. make conservative ideas public policy?


132 posted on 05/07/2009 2:16:08 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: misterrob

If it is only winning that matters, run the person who can win, regardless of philosophy.

It it is principles that matter, then stick to them and accept defeats from time to time.

Myself, I stand on principle.


133 posted on 05/07/2009 2:16:14 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Big_Monkey
SF's metro area has over 4.2 million, over 10% of the total California population. I wonder how many didn't vote for Obama.

San Francisco County has a population of about 800,000. 26% did not vote for Obama.

134 posted on 05/07/2009 2:21:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: misterrob

“Ahh, but here’s the rub. The republican party is not the conservative party...”

I’ll grant that they’re not in practice. They’re supposed to be in theory. Certainly they are rhetorically the most conservative of the two major parties.

That being said, I have to ask, if the Republican party is not the conservative party, why does it exist? What is its constituency?


135 posted on 05/07/2009 2:21:50 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Mojave

Bump!

136 posted on 05/07/2009 2:22:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

isn’t Ridge already out?

crist I know already has primary opposition. (granted from a minor name but it is still early)


137 posted on 05/07/2009 2:28:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mr Rogers
"Some times a losing team needs to rebuild - and that rebuilding includes getting rid of poor performers.

How's that worked out so far for the Detroit Lions or the Kansas City Royals? Or even better, the Atlanta Falcons. At one time the Falcons had a rookie QB that they just didn't think wouldn't make it in the NFL or help to bolster the winning percentage of their failing team, so they traded him. Four games later, that Quarterback went on to start every game for the next 16 years. I wonder how Brett Favre felt about it at the time.

Sometimes a store has to trim good selling products from its shelves, so it can concentrate the brand name on what it does well.

I'm assuming you mean "poor selling products", but be that as it may. Grocery stores are a great example. I'm glad you brought it up. Take Proctor and Gamble. P&G makes about 4 different brands of laundry soap. Why? Because of shelf-space. P&G makes and markets those different brands to different constituents all in the effort to advance the corporation and the corporation's agenda. Now, they're all P&G brands, but they're just a little different from each other to accommodate a diverse customer base. Is there a lesson there?

Pruning makes a plant smaller. It also encourages future growth.

And sometimes a plant is pruned to such an extreme degree that it just dies. It just shrivels up and dies and becomes an irrelevant stump in the garden in which in previously flourished.

Analogies can be so perplexing.

138 posted on 05/07/2009 2:28:30 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: Tublecane
You win the elections, to get the donations, to buy the votes, to get the strength, to win the elections.
139 posted on 05/07/2009 2:29:06 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Big_Monkey
Obama + Fiorina = Flubama
140 posted on 05/07/2009 2:31:28 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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