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To: Stunned
"Oh for crying out loud. What have we come to?

This is operated by MSC. It's probably almost all civilians with just some Navy personnel on board. I doubt it's even armed with anything larger than a M249, and probably only has M16, M9 9mm, and Shotguns aboard.

When the Marines were taken off of ships starting in the late '80s, this is what one of the unintended consequences turned out to be.

38 posted on 05/07/2009 10:54:08 AM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: Big_Monkey
"When the Marines were taken off of ships starting in the late '80s, this is what one of the unintended consequences turned out to be."

That's not an excuse. Sailors can still fight, and all throughout our history, they were exptected to do both boarding parties and landing parties when Marines weren't around, which, considering how small the Corps was before WWII (back when it was actually a corps, and not a seaborne army), light infantry was a regular duty of American sailors.

I collect old Bluejackets' Manuals, and until fairly recently, light infantry training was a big part of the Navy's basic training. This is taken from my 1940 edition:



Just a few years prior, navy recruits also had to qualify with the Browning .30 cal machine guns as well. Also, keep in mind that support ships like the Lewis and Clark are no longer ships of the line. They're now US Naval Ships (USNS instead of USS), and are now largely staffed by merchant mariners on contract with the Navy. USNS ships can in reality hardly even be considered naval vessels the way we currently operate. They're just merchant ships with a coat of grey paint, for all practical purposes.
124 posted on 05/07/2009 1:43:26 PM PDT by DesScorp
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