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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unfortunately this "Teacher" also doesn't understand what a Certification of Live Birth is, or how it relates to a Certificate of Live Birth.

In sort, the certification is a computer print out of information contained in the state's birth record database. It's not a "Copy" of any physical document, and it's detailed appearance will depend on when it was printed, not when the underlying certificate was filed. The Certification contains no "real" signatures, merely the "stamp" of the state official responsible for issuing it, as well as the Seal of the state.

A Certificate of Live Birth, is the "long form" or "original" Birth Certificate. It's signed by a parent, and a witness to the birth, usually the attending physician, but it could be a nurse midwife, a "traditional" midwife, or just a relative (supposedly) present at the birth. If the birth was in a hospital, it will also have the signature, or stamp, of the hospital's registrar. The Certificate also contains more information, such as the father's and mother's occupations, and place of residence.

But, when one requests a "birth certificate" from the State of Hawaii, unless one specifies a copy of the "Certificate", one gets the "Certification".

The point of all that is that anyone with a Certificate, would also have a "Certification", if they requested.

57 posted on 05/06/2009 8:32:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

But you also did NOT have to be born in Hawaii to qualify for the certificate of live birth. They would issue them no matter where you were born.

Hence the believable assertions by Polarik, et al, that the COLB was doctored (changed place of birth)


156 posted on 05/07/2009 5:25:35 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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