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ANOTHER UNINFORMED FAIRTAX CRITIC
Nelz Nuze ^ | May 6, 2009 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 05/06/2009 11:57:23 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20

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To: KarenMarie

“But the single guy who has no children, doesn’t use the schools, needs less trash collection and other community services has to start paying taxes after the first $10k and will max out at approx $15k”

The fairtax is a federal tax, the services you list are locally funded. Just wanted to clarify for you.


141 posted on 05/07/2009 5:14:09 AM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: happygrl

“Hewitt has had as a sponsor for ten years on his radio show the “Mortgage Minute Guy”, and has always been a defender of the mortgage deduction for that reason.”

For that very reason, Mr. Hewitt has no credibility with me. Why does he advocate sending $10K to a bank so that one can avoid sending $3K to the federal government? My numbers are examples only....If someone wants to avoid sending money to the feds, then they can live in a paid for house and give $10K to a charity/church.

“I don’t know why Dave Ramsey is down on it: I am for something other than the current privacy-invading IRS and the thousand+ page Tax Code.”

See my post #138 for Dave’s clarification.

Have a good one.


142 posted on 05/07/2009 5:18:41 AM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: Hostage

“Actually a law could exist now that would print on every receipt the estimated embedded federal taxes that make up the purchase price.”

You are correct, a law could exist to do just that. However, I have very little confidence that it could be accurately portrayed. I doubt the government even knows with any sense of accuracy how much taxation really exists.


143 posted on 05/07/2009 5:21:39 AM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Just as an FYI, this is what Neal has currently on his nuze page.
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DAVE RAMSEY AND THE FAIRTAX
By Neal Boortz @ May 7, 2009 8:32 AM Permalink | Comments (15) | TrackBacks (0)
We need to kiss and make up. Really, we do. As I understand it Dave said on his show yesterday that he got it a bit wrong when he wrote about the FairTax on Townhall.com. Now I’m trying to get him on the air so we can swap some spit. No problem, Dave! All’s well.


144 posted on 05/07/2009 7:57:06 AM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: taxcontrol
Turret, you and I have discussed this on other posts, no need to consume more bandwidth rehashing the same points.

If you don't want to discuss your points, then why do you keep posting them? Or is it that you are so arrogant that you expect us all to believe every misinformed opinion you post??

145 posted on 05/07/2009 9:35:47 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Socialism is a good idea until you run out of other peopleÂ’s money. Margaret Thatcher)
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To: CSM

Beyond that, each person has a different amount of tax in each purchase...

each person has the same amount of business tax costs embedded ... but each person has had to earn a different amount of dollars to be able to have the price available.

If my fed effective tax rate is 21%, I have to earn 126.58 to have the $100 available. Pedro, who pays only payroll taxes has only to earn $108.28.


146 posted on 05/07/2009 9:39:45 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Principled

Another good point.


147 posted on 05/07/2009 11:04:33 AM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: CSM; xcamel

X will now run for the tall grass on this thread but be back on the next one with more of his factless sniping.


148 posted on 05/07/2009 11:34:45 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun

Did you stroke out and suddenly think you were addressing someone who cares what you think?


149 posted on 05/07/2009 11:51:44 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Not at all Mr. “arranged the biggest tax free transfer of wealth in history”.

Just relating facts in case someone might be interested!


150 posted on 05/07/2009 12:01:17 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun

That honor is now held by your best buddy Bawny Fwank.


151 posted on 05/07/2009 12:06:31 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Did you listen to Dave’s show yesterday? If not, you can link to it from my post #138. He addresses this rant by Neal at the beginning of the 2nd hour.


152 posted on 05/07/2009 12:08:43 PM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: CSM
All that matters is the flamethrower attitude that NB came out with toward Dave without having all the facts... which is all too typical of fairtaxers. It will be the death of any tax reform.
153 posted on 05/07/2009 12:12:38 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

You must have me confused with one of your New England buddies as I have never met, and have zero interest in ever meeting, your buddy Barney!


154 posted on 05/07/2009 12:16:00 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun

/ignore putz {on}


155 posted on 05/07/2009 12:19:38 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: JTHomes
no. They still have to eat, maintain a home or residence. They take trips, go to restraurants a lot, purchase a lot of clothes, necessities.

Mainly it is that the older folks are looking for entertainment, and do that a lot, they like to go places and spend their money there. Usually spending more than they planned. lol

I know, I are one. lol Yes, I do have more CRAP than I need. lol, but my Fridge, washer and dryer will soon need to be replaced.

Seems like it is never ending spending just to maintain in good repair.

156 posted on 05/07/2009 12:20:58 PM PDT by annieokie (i)
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To: xcamel

“All that matters is the flamethrower attitude that NB came out with toward Dave without having all the facts...”

Sort of like when you posted the following in response to the mistated reflection of Dave’s position and to my clarifications of that position:

#2: “Fairtax is a joke, and financially educated people know it.”

#48: “He’s educated enought to call a joke a joke.”

#53: “I’ve listened to dave for a couple of years now, never once heard him mention it in a positive way.”

#80: “One look at boortz’s rant and he’ll forget he ever heard of the FT.”

#96: “You better reconnect with your buddies that claim he is an “ardent supporter”... or does everything you post lack any semblance of truth?”

I have provided you the link where you can hear Dave’s position on the FT and his specific response to this rant by Neal. I have also posted Neal’s response to Dave, admittedly that was to the original poster of this article so you may have missed it.

Now, you essentially say that Dave’s position/clarification and Neal’s update is irrelevant because the typical FT supporter’s behaviour, which is amazingly actually the behaviour you have shown on this thread.


157 posted on 05/07/2009 12:25:09 PM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: xcamel

Good thing your folks built a great business for you (how long is it going to last under your control?) else you would have starved to death LONG ago putz!


158 posted on 05/07/2009 12:25:42 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Hostage

I may not know everything there is to know about the so called fair tax, but if somebody who loves raising taxes as much as the huckster likes it I know I am against it.


159 posted on 05/07/2009 12:30:26 PM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: pepperhead

SO, would you rather the government decide how much of your paycheck you can keep each month?

Would you rather enable the government to reach into your paycheck through the miracle of withholding and CONFISCATE that portion they deem legal before you’ve tithed, taken care of your family or saved a penny for retirement?

Given the option of being in control of my paycheck vs. not being in control of my paycheck, I’ll take control of my paycheck ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

Take the “Pre-bate” and bank it for a rainy day or a vacation. Problem solved.


160 posted on 05/07/2009 12:31:51 PM PDT by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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