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To: George from New England
-- Has there ever been US states in recent times that have decided to go against the federal government? --

Yes. Medical marijuana,. California lost on commerce clause grounds. (Raich)

SCOTUS ordered the 9th Circuit to "reconsider" [Read -"uphold"] the 1934 NFA via application of Raich. (Stewart)

This Montana law is grandstanding boob-bait for suckers. Same for the effort in Texas. Ask the sponsoring legislators to address the cases I cited here, and find out how un-serious the state yokels are. If they don't know these cases and have a specific plan to surmount them, they aren't serious.

107 posted on 05/06/2009 9:07:24 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

If they stand alone they cant fight it, but it sends a very strong message, however as I just mentioned if other states follow suit, 2/3 of the states can do anything they dam well please.


110 posted on 05/06/2009 9:13:27 AM PDT by Concho ( When the people fear the govt it is tyranny. When the Govt fears the people it is liberty.)
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To: Cboldt

You just dont get it. Addressing those cases is playing on their court. These laws like Montanas are a clear statement that the state is CLAIMING its lawful 10th amendment rights.

In essence, the state is arguing with the feds. The feds examine the argument in THEIR courts and say, “we win”.

The states simply do not care what those federal rulings say, because those rulings conflict with their States rights as clearly written into the US Constitution. A ruling from a federal court will not be the last word now.

And all of this wouldnt be needed if Obama would clearly, with no artful wording, state that he will NOT sign ANY new gun laws. HIS clear move to dictatorship is the cause of this, so the answer is not to be found in a federal precedent.


111 posted on 05/06/2009 9:17:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Cboldt

“This Montana law is grandstanding boob-bait for suckers. Same for the effort in Texas.”

I agree. This law simply invites the foolhardy to get themselves sent to Federal prison.

Being a test case is vastly overrated.


205 posted on 05/06/2009 4:37:16 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Cboldt

“Ask the sponsoring legislators to address the cases I cited here, and find out how un-serious the state yokels are. If they don’t know these cases and have a specific plan to surmount them, they aren’t serious.”

Is that you Obama?


293 posted on 05/07/2009 8:08:23 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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