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To: RinaseaofDs
"Why should the bondholders back off again?"

Because they own nothing without the treasury paying the company $8 billion.

"Oh no, see, we own the whole company". Which is worth *zero*. Without Fiat, without the UAW, with the entire supplier network screwed, with the bankers all paid nothing, it will not be "the union" that is broken. There will be *nothing*.

Then the workers, and bankers, and Fiat, and US treasury, and suppliers, can make their own new company and call it Dysler. And the bondholders can pound sand.

Or, we could pretend we can all see this, and they can have 29 cents on the dollar to shut up and go away. Or 32, to make their jackass lawyers feel important for another fifteen minutes.

If the old JP Morgan were doing this deal, these bondholders would be told by the banks they'd never borrow a dime again, or they could take 29 cents and like it.

This isn't capitalism and its isn't ownership and it isn't class anything, its just a stickup of the US treasury. There is no reason whatever to give them the time of day.

33 posted on 05/05/2009 5:09:34 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC
Liquidation of the assets. That's what happens. They'd get what's left when everything gets sold off. True, no workers, cars, UAW, or return on the unsecured loans the taxpayers made, but the secured creditors would get something more than nothing.

Chrysler should die. No re-emergence as a UAW zombie.

38 posted on 05/05/2009 5:49:37 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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