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To: Cboldt
Here's the point that I was making about the gag order. Without a gag order, we might see young Lundeby's police interrogation, jailhouse pictures, etc. night after night on the Nancy Grace show. Think Casey Anthony. In that case, the meter reader is my prime suspect, not Anthony.

As for the alibi and the "some other dude did it," those are assertions, not facts. If the Lundebys can back up the assertions solidly, the Feds don't have a case.

I found another article by a William Norman Grigg on Lew Rockwell's website, with more details furnished by Mom. Grigg refers to the "Stalinist (sic) Patriot Act" which tells you where he's coming from. Grigg asserts that a criminal complaint has been filed but the lad has not been charged yet. As I said before, I figure that an arrest warrant was served, he was charged under a criminal complaint, and was later indicted by a federal grand jury.

I have to wash my hands thoroughly after visiting Rockwell's site.

If Ashton didn't commit this/these crimes, my heart goes out to him. If he did, he won't get any sympathy from me.
28 posted on 05/06/2009 9:44:53 AM PDT by normanpubbie
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To: normanpubbie
-- Without a gag order, we might see young Lundeby's police interrogation, jailhouse pictures, etc. night after night on the Nancy Grace show. --

It'd be the first time for a bomb-hoaxer, that I know of. This kid isn't the first to figure out it's easy to cause some panic and action with a phone call, note, or internet-based posed (e.g., MySpace)

-- As for the alibi and the "some other dude did it," those are assertions, not facts. --

I was just saying that the defendant is arguing the facts, not that the defendant had them right. IOW, this doesn't come off as the prototypical "pound the table" situation.

-- I figure that an arrest warrant was served, he was charged under a criminal complaint, and was later indicted by a federal grand jury. --

I've seen no evidence of an indictment, but yours is certainly a reasonable assumption. Would you find the story newsworthy if the fellow was held this long w/o an indictment?

-- If Ashton didn't commit this/these crimes, my heart goes out to him. If he did, he won't get any sympathy from me. --

Goes to my point that cretins who are suspected of calling in bomb threats ought to, as a matter of routine, be moved a few hundred miles from home with all form of communication being "under seal." It'd make the little bastards toe the line.

But aside from the determination of actual guilt or innocence, the story does present an accusation that the criminal justice system has some "optional procedures" that result in a claim of violation of some imagined due process right. That's novel in this case, not appearing in any of the bomb threat cases that I've casually bumped into.

29 posted on 05/06/2009 9:59:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: normanpubbie
If you don't secure your home network there are other people who will use it.

That particular problem appears to have broken the back of the music producers and distributors who were busy suing everybody and anybody for "downloading" copyrighted tunes without permission.

I would imagine by now the federales have figured the problem out and know how to get around it ~ and I would be wrong. The federales still need a warrant to access the internet to see if, in fact, who it is who is actually doing the communicating. I'm not sure the federales are in a position to protect the innocent.

At the same time they delayed 18 days before bothering to respond to the bomb threat ~ which is something that should bother all of us.

34 posted on 05/06/2009 4:57:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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