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To: Jim Robinson; wagglebee; bvw
We, as conservatives, MUST promote the idea that we don't have to hold our noses to vote for the best of the worst. The libs don't do this...how did we become this way?

I'm tired of justifying my vote by saying...I'll hold my nose and vote for (McCain). He was a lousy candidate, he was a RINO. Romney is the same. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - same. Now people are trying to promote Utah's Governor as a potential runner in 2012. As a Mormon, and a current resident of Utah...I say NO WAY!

However, 2 questions that beg for answers: 1)When do we stop holding our noses and supporting RINO's; 2) When will we pick a REAL conservative candidate - dare I say - regardless of the outcome of the election?

IMO, it's question #2 that is what we fear worst...losing. Well, we lost big time this past election. I don't mean in terms of numbers, but in terms of what we value. I believe we have to put our values out there with a candidate who is a true conservative, even if we think they won't win. I believe, however, we will win.

But we will continue to lose with RINO contenders - even if they win.

1,413 posted on 05/06/2009 1:10:08 PM PDT by zlala (sorry for the novel....)
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To: zlala
When will we pick a REAL conservative candidate - dare I say - regardless of the outcome of the election?

IMO, it's question #2 that is what we fear worst...losing. Well, we lost big time this past election. I don't mean in terms of numbers, but in terms of what we value. I believe we have to put our values out there with a candidate who is a true conservative, even if we think they won't win. I believe, however, we will win.

I would contend that the ONLY REAL conservative that they GOP has EVER nominated for president is Ronald Reagan (Goldwater was a fiscal conservative and strong on national defense, but socially liberal) and Reagan won in landslides both times. "Safe" candidates (Ford and Dole) have been disasters. Bushes may be able to win, but they destroy the morale of the conservative base in the process.

1,417 posted on 05/06/2009 1:34:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: zlala

“IMO, it’s question #2 that is what we fear worst...losing. Well, we lost big time this past election. I don’t mean in terms of numbers, but in terms of what we value. I believe we have to put our values out there with a candidate who is a true conservative, even if we think they won’t win. I believe, however, we will win”

You didn’t post this to me but I will take a stab at it. Rush had said that only about 30 percent of the people support a socialist agenda (I doubt it is that high) so obviously something is wrong. I believe that is that we are tolerating voter fraud (that probably gives us a 5-8 percent handicap) and we allow the media to filter/present our message (add another 10 percent) and uninspiring candidates that are little better that are little better than the Democrats mean we loose. Address/correct these problems and we win .... BIG TIME. As far as the media goes I think all the Republicans have to do is give these forums, and take radio SOMETHING to talk about, they don’t have to tell us WHAT to talk about (as the Democrats do - think repetitive phases that Rush has played.


1,430 posted on 05/06/2009 4:58:12 PM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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