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GOP obit premature
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Sunday, May 3, 2009 | Salena Zito

Posted on 05/03/2009 6:41:05 AM PDT by Salena Zito

Arlen Specter switched parties for one and only one reason: to save his career.

No principle was involved; there was no "the party left me" moment. It was pure, unadulterated political greed; he wanted his seat.

Out of honor, Specter should have resigned, had Gov. Ed Rendell reappoint him, and then run in a special election in the fall as a Democrat. Instead, he abandoned his principles and went from a fiscal conservative and social moderate to a social liberal who voted for President Obama's trillion-dollar stimulus package.

What he has left behind with his switch to the other team is everyone under the sun, as he gleefully dances on the supposed grave of the Republican Party after proclaiming its death by a thousand cuts.

"I think the reports of the death of the Republican Party are greatly exaggerated," says Texas Tech political science professor Tim Nokken. "It's been a rough couple of years for the GOP, but that doesn't equate with death."

So, no going the way of the Whigs -- which is exactly what self-agonizing Democrats said about themselves after yet another defeat in the 2004 presidential and congressional election.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2010; democrats; pa2010; pagop; specter; zito
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1 posted on 05/03/2009 6:41:07 AM PDT by Salena Zito
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To: Salena Zito

These “death of the X party” (X = “Republican” or “Democrat,” depending on the year) have been seen before.

Take it as a signal that we’ve “hit bottom.” You know what happens next.


2 posted on 05/03/2009 6:47:45 AM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: Salena Zito
Nokken thinks that if the Republican Party continues to be hard-line conservative on economic and social issues, it won't play well in a lot of places, especially outside the Deep South.

If this is true, then why was Specter getting creamed in the polls by a hard-line conservative, to the point where he felt he needed to switch parties?

3 posted on 05/03/2009 6:47:47 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (A fine head of hair lends beauty to a handsome face, and terror to an ugly one.)
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4 posted on 05/03/2009 6:50:18 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Salena Zito

Thankfully I am glad he switched. I read in the Birminham News an article on Jeff Sessions. Because of Specter’s departure, Sessions may be the next in line to be the Republican head on the Judiciary committee!!!! This will be instrumental when justices come before them for confirmation. This definately left me dancing for joy. :)


5 posted on 05/03/2009 6:53:24 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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6 posted on 05/03/2009 6:56:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (There are now two legs on the socialist beast: the "D" leg and the "R" leg.)(TATBO)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I guess they didn’t tell the NH voters that “conservative economic and social issues” don’t “play well.”

We had two state special elections in the past two weeks up here in NH (last I checked we weren’t in the “south”).

One for a Senate seat, the other for a House seat. Both Republicans ran on 3 issues - lower taxes, less government and traditional values (as the Dems were in the midst of passing a transgender bathroom bill).

The “won’t play well” platforms won both elections by an average of only 25 points. The Senate race was won 62-38. The House was 65-34.

Hmm.


7 posted on 05/03/2009 6:59:44 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: Salena Zito

As a young Justice Department attorney Specter invented the “single-bullet” theory for the Warren Commission. It saved the blue ribbon panel from actually having to look into the nuts and bolts of the JFK assassination. They simply hung their hats on one dancing bullet causing seven wounds in two men...and being found in pristine condition.

Specter is good at stuff like this...because he NEVER allows principle or truth to stand in the way of his personal advancement.

This man is a terrible human being.


8 posted on 05/03/2009 7:03:10 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

He was getting creamed in the *primaries*, which is the difference. Think about Lieberman’s seat, where the left nominated ned lamont for the seat, even though he couldn’t win a state-wide election. If party-identification shrinks in a given state (as it has in pennsylvania), presumably the people still in it are much farther to that side of the political spectrum than those who left. You run a risk of only getting candidates that are unpalatable to the general public (even though they are the *ideal* candidate from the perspective of the primary voters).


9 posted on 05/03/2009 7:07:14 AM PDT by OH4life
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To: nhwingut

That is INCREDIBLE!!! I think the democrats are going to get whipped good this next election. But, the Republican party has to return to conservative values to become a powerhouse again.


10 posted on 05/03/2009 7:07:17 AM PDT by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: EmilyGeiger
Thankfully I am glad he switched. I read in the Birminham News an article on Jeff Sessions. Because of Specter’s departure, Sessions may be the next in line to be the Republican head on the Judiciary committee!!!! This will be instrumental when justices come before them for confirmation. This definately left me dancing for joy. :)

Yeah but if the RATs have 60 votes, what difference does it make. Or do you just like watching Guppies talk as opposed to having any real power. Aside from flapping his gums Sessions can do diddly squat if the Rats have 60 votes.

11 posted on 05/03/2009 7:20:49 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Yup, yup, sometimes it is nice to go a few days without having to hear from Gov. Palin, you betcha)
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To: Salena Zito

The question the Republican party should really concentrate on is:

How did we go from one of our strongest positions ever in 2004, to one of our weakest ever in 2008?

There are several parts to that answer, but it will never be answered until Bush and Rove are looked at critically, and some get off this “he kept us safe” excuse for every shortcoming, and every stupid policy initiative.


12 posted on 05/03/2009 7:24:19 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Salena Zito
he abandoned his principles

People can lose their hair. People can lose their youth and beauty. People can lose their virginity. People can lose their ignorance and inexperience.

But, you can't lose what you never had.
13 posted on 05/03/2009 7:35:05 AM PDT by adorno (Where is Branch 4?)
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A state that elected conservative Rick Santorum can elect a conservative. In today’s climate either will lose, but the climate in politics is forever changing. If the party regains its liberatian roots, states like PA will change further. I don’t see Toomey as a Lamont. Selecting Lamont in the Rep Party is the equivalent of selecting a Gary Bauer or Alan Keyes on the right. Toomey would have a shot if he is a good campaigner.


14 posted on 05/03/2009 7:41:09 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Will88
"The question the Republican party should really concentrate on is: How did we go from one of our strongest positions ever in 2004, to one of our weakest ever in 2008? There are several parts to that answer, but it will never be answered until Bush and Rove are looked at critically, and some get off this “he kept us safe” excuse for every shortcoming, and every stupid policy initiative." good points. While I think that Bush and Rove made mistakes, the biggest problem was their lack of ability (or willingness) to punch back at the most egregious and false accusations. Too many lies were permitted to be repeated often enough to become part of the average voter's belief and it was incredibly damaging to Bush and to the Republican party. Did they spend too much? sure,, but they also had to rebuild a military gutted after 8 years of Clinton. Did they like about Iraq? No, the explanation of why Hussein had to be taken out had a number of factors, but they didn't forcefully attack the lie and it became reality for too many people. Did they "out" Valerie Plame? No, but the lie, again, was repeated. If anything she and her husband should have been on trial for treason along with Armitage. Was Katrina a mess? Yep, but the Democratic Gov and Mayor should have been hung out to dry in the media and by 3rd party ads. The next Republican Pres. Candidate needs to reach the people directly - to go beyond the media, and needs to have allies that are willing to throw body punches to make things happen and to make sure that deliberate lies do not go unanswered.
15 posted on 05/03/2009 7:43:13 AM PDT by phothus
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To: nhwingut

It doesn’t surprise me. The majority of Americans are conservative, whether they think they are or not.


16 posted on 05/03/2009 7:57:03 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (A fine head of hair lends beauty to a handsome face, and terror to an ugly one.)
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To: Salena Zito
This might be the death knell for the mealy mouth, let's all get along, I'll sell out to get invited to the best events republicans. Conservativism is a winner, and it always has been. It might be out of vogue with the media types, but regular folks with families, paychecks, and faith in themselves will always keep it alive.
17 posted on 05/03/2009 7:58:26 AM PDT by festusbanjo (I'll keep my freedom, my money, and my gun...you keep the CHANGE.)
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To: Salena Zito

"GOP obit premature. Really, it is! I mean it!"

18 posted on 05/03/2009 8:01:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (There are now two legs on the socialist beast: the "D" leg and the "R" leg.)(TATBO)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Well Pa. is a strange state. Rendell is thinking of asking another liberal state senator to challenge Arlen. And the GOP is asking both Ridge and a Gop state senator to challenge Pat T. So, who knows who will come out of that state except knowing Pa. , it will be a Dem in spite of all the hype about Arlen or Toomey. And that is absurd. Talk about split personalities!


19 posted on 05/03/2009 8:34:29 AM PDT by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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Why is the GOP setting up a primary fight? You’d think if you have two candidates and one withdraws, you should be happy that you wont have a big primary battle and can advance to the general election in the best possible shape.

Just another example of the Stupid Party, I guess.


20 posted on 05/03/2009 9:14:55 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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