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Guess how DHS defines who is a terrorist now?
WorldNetDaily.com ^
| May 2, 2009
| Drew Zahn
Posted on 05/03/2009 3:58:42 AM PDT by Man50D
Two weeks before the U.S. Department of Homeland Security penned its controversial report warning against "right-wing extremists" in the United States, it generated a memo defining dozens of additional groups animal rights activists, black separatists, tax protesters, even worshippers of the Norse god Odin as potential "threats."
Though the "Domestic Extremism Lexicon" was reportedly rescinded almost immediately, Benjamin Sarlin of The Daily Beast recently obtained and published online a copy of the unclassified memo, dated March 26, 2009.
While many of the groups listed in the lexicon such as Aryan prison gangs and neo-Nazis may indeed be widely considered extremists, others will likely take offense at being described as a potential "threat."
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To: P8riot
Only people who have something to worry about consider me a threat.
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posted on
05/03/2009 4:59:20 AM PDT
by
Tainan
(Where's my FOF Indicator?)
To: Man50D
They are highly critical of the U.S. Government's response to illegal immigration and oppose government programs that are designed to extend 'rights' to illegal aliens, such as issuing driver's licenses or national identification cards and providing in-state tuition, medical benefits, or public education." Oh, so there's degrees of opposition in not following a law? Sort of like just a little bit pregnant?
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:03:23 AM PDT
by
bgill
(The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
To: Man50D; chuck_the_tv_out; P8riot; Old Sarge; Steve Van Doorn; mo; Iscool; rawcatslyentist; ...
Interesting the definitions used in this "lexicon"
Leftwing Extremism |
A movement of groups or individuals that embraces anticapitalist, Communist, or Socialist doctrines and seeks to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political processes. The term also refers to leftwing, single-issue extremist movements that are dedicated to causes such as environmentalism, opposition to war, and the rights of animals. |
Rightwing Extremism |
A movement of rightwing groups or individuals who can be broadly divided into those who are primarily hate-oriented, and those who are mainly antigovernment and reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. This term also may refer to rightwing extremist movements that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. |
You will note the differences:
- On the left-wing:
- A movement of groups or individuals that embraces anticapitalist, Communist, or Socialist doctrines and Translation: note that they didn't label them "leftwing" in the definition, like they did "rightwing." That's because THE ONE® agrees with their ideology and considers it to be utterly normal...but they just have to work with HIM to bring about change.
- seeks to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political processes. Translation: Even though you agree with THE ONE®, if you are impatient with his programs and want to do so more quickly, we'll label you.
- The term also refers to leftwing, single-issue extremist movements that are dedicated to causes such as Translation: You're good people, you're dedicated to a cause, but you have to work with THE ONE® in order to bring about change.
- On the right-wing:
- A movement of rightwing groups or individuals who can be broadly divided Translation: Note the Label here. Using the term rightwing to define rightwing means that they consider adherents to this political POV to be somehow subhuman.
- into those who are primarily hate-oriented, Translation: Have you ever gotten in an argument with a moonbat and their last dying gasp is to call you a "hater?" That's what we're dealing with here, folks: if you disagree with THE ONE®, you are a hater, and therefore a RW extremist.
- and those who are mainly antigovernment and reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. Translation: Yes indeedee folks, anybody who does not favor a HUGE monstrosity of a FEDGOV™ is an extremist.
- This term also may refer to rightwing extremist movements that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. Translation: Note that with the left wing, they were causes. With the right wing, they are movements. A "cause" is a good thing. It supports something better than you. A "movement" is just a bunch of thugs all walking in the same direction.
Words have meaning folks...
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:09:00 AM PDT
by
markomalley
(Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
To: Iscool
“...no matter what.” That’s the kicker. When push comes to shove, the US Armed Forces are not going to line up behind to some Phony Crackpot Kenyan Usurper. Especialy one who’s major goal is to invalidate the Constitution and destroy this country.
I’ll bet money on that. The tide is already turning on O’Bummer.
He’s in deep doo doo and he knows it. I’ll give him 18 more months, from today, at the outside.
The demonratz/demihogs just won’t be able to pull it off. The longer this lasts the more drastic he and his syncophats will become. When they start to disintergrate they will become even more frenetic in their attempts to make this a one-party nation.
O’Bummer has at least one major fault; his personality. He’s more the Pee Wee Herman personality than the Joseph Stalin or Genghis Khan type.
They’re all a bunch of cowboy ballerinas; can’t wait to shoot themselves in the foot.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:09:27 AM PDT
by
.44 Special
(Táimid Buarch)
To: basil
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:11:20 AM PDT
by
2nd amendment mama
( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
To: Man50D
anarchist extremism A movement of groups or individuals who advocate a society devoid of government structure or ownership of individual property. Many embrace some of the radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements. Anarchist extremists advocate changing government and society through revolutionary violence.
So, by this definition the Foundesr of the United States would have been on the list. Although they probably DO see our Founders as extremists.
And, ironies of ironies, so would the current administration for its espousal of " of the radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements"
I bet they don't see it that way though.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:21:20 AM PDT
by
raybbr
(It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
To: .44 Special
I hope you’re right...I assume a large portion of the military doesn’t do politics and will do what they are told...I hope the ones doing the tellin’ got it figured out...
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:24:53 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(I don't understand all that I know...)
To: markomalley
>>Words have meaning folks...
Yes they do. But you can take the power away from those words. When a liberal calls me an “extremist”, I just tell her “Hell yeah!” and explain that when a marxist calls me an extremist, that means I’m doing something right.
That’s what these DHS memos tell me. We are scaring them, so they are resorting to name-calling. If we continue, they will escalate to “name-calling in a shrill voice” and eventually “name-calling in a shrill voice with frantic finger pointing.”
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:25:11 AM PDT
by
Bryanw92
To: Man50D
Why not simplify that list: A terrorist is anyone who does not worship 0bama.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:26:49 AM PDT
by
reg45
(Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
To: Man50D
GOOD, the Government should fear We the People!!
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:29:32 AM PDT
by
DTogo
(Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
To: Man50D
I proudly considered myself a threat to Marxists for the twenty years I wore my Army uniform. I would like to think I’m just as much a threat as I ever was.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:31:31 AM PDT
by
Feckless
(No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
To: bgill
Oh, so there's degrees of opposition in not following a law? Sort of like just a little bit pregnant?I've read just about all the definitions. It looks to me as if anyone can fall under any one of the definitions. It's so broad that unless you sit home and never say a word against the govt. you will be on the list.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:33:48 AM PDT
by
raybbr
(It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
To: raybbr
The Founders were certainly extremists and certainly on the 18th century DHS list. The would have all been hung as traitors had the war turned out differently.
barbra ann
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:33:53 AM PDT
by
barb-tex
(Republic of Texas will include all of the Confederacy, except Maybe VA.)
To: Man50D
Who does this department consider not to be a threat?
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:34:50 AM PDT
by
freekitty
(Give me back my conservative vote.)
To: Bryanw92
When a liberal calls me an extremist, I just tell her Hell yeah! and explain that when a marxist calls me an extremist, that means Im doing something right.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:40:54 AM PDT
by
markomalley
(Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
To: Man50D
additional groups animal rights activists, black separatists, tax protesters, even worshippers of the Norse god Odin,bird watchers,pontiac owners,... as potential “threats.” the DHS is getting a little spooky.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:40:58 AM PDT
by
Vaduz
To: raybbr
It's so broad that unless you sit home and never say a word against the govt. you will be on the list. And that's the goal!
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:41:49 AM PDT
by
markomalley
(Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
To: freekitty
Who does this department consider not to be a threat?
Those who engage in heel licking the One fervently.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:50:37 AM PDT
by
LuxMaker
(The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
To: markomalley
- From "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand:
[Rearden] "But, after all, I did break one of your laws."
[Dr. Ferris] "Well, what do you think they're for?"
Dr. Ferris did not notice the sudden look on Rearden's face, the look of a man hit by the first vision of that which he had sought to see.
Dr. Ferris was past the stage of seeing; he was intent upon delivering the last blows to an animal caught in a trap.
"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up againstthen you'll know that this not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it.
You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpretedand you create a nation of law-breakersand then you cash in on guilt.
Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:56:00 AM PDT
by
LuxMaker
(The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
To: Old Sarge
obama and the Democrat Party’s policies will ensure that we are completely and totally destroyed as a Nation. While the Republican Party stands around, nodding their heads in agreement, and snickering.
obama and the Democrat Party’s policies will destroy our industrial base, our agriculture base, and our military .
Forget about the Republicans re-taking control of Congress in 2010. ACORN,the media, and voting idiots , and the Republican Party will see that it does not happen.
Ditto with 2012.
Man is in control of the United States destiny now. Almighty God has and the influencr of Almighty God has and is being bannished. unless the United States returns to the God of the Bible, nothing but disaster awaits down the road.
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posted on
05/03/2009 5:57:07 AM PDT
by
sport
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