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To: elkfersupper

Last time I checked, we had an election in which people voted, that is how Obama got elected. Are you confused about that? President Bush had nothing to do with Obama’s win. You had more to do with Obama’s win actually...


15 posted on 05/01/2009 10:12:43 PM PDT by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Wpin
Last time I checked, we had an election in which people voted, that is how Obama got elected. Are you confused about that? President Bush had nothing to do with Obama’s win. You had more to do with Obama’s win actually...

You're daft. The liberal policies of George Bush and the liberal views of John McCain had everything to do about discouraging a turnout from the conservatives. Give us a Reagan, a champion of the working man and you will get a conservative turnout. Bush lied about Social Security. He lied about disengaging our military as world policemen. He did nothing to stem cheap labor swarming over the borders. Not only did he afflict the left with BDS, he did the same to conservatives. He just about spent us into bankruptcy to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, two countries that will hate us. Oh, and the money he spent went to defend the oil interests of his aristocracy cronies, the ones living in America and Europe who have vast fortunes in middle east oil infrastructure. That's what Americans are dying for.

17 posted on 05/01/2009 11:08:12 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Wpin
President Bush had nothing to do with Obama’s win.

Are you kidding?

George W Bush had more to do with Obama's election than anybody. He had years of the bully pulpit to articulate and set things straight, yet over and over and over he let the press run over him, and blatantly refused to present what conservatism is and what the United States stood for.

George Bush is my contemporary. I voted for him, and personally, like the Dalai Lama, believe he is a likable and honorable individual.

But he was a tragic, tragic factor in the loss of the values for which this nation was founded, and resulted in the Obama hegemony. The Clinton's before him were likewise.

I doubt the United States will EVER recover the spirit of individual responsibility and human dignity (freedom) with which I grew up (coeval with GWB incidentally).

The United States was the "great experiment" because it represented an envelope where the integrity, responsibility, and courage of the individual would be relied upon to allow commerce to flow, as opposed to a top-down government controlled society. The New Testament versus the Old.

George W. Bush never said it, and I doubt, because of his elitist upbringing, ever understood it.

This is far beyond current congressional politics, we are living an historical trauma.

And GWB had everything to do with it. So much so that it's possible that it was all the plan. He isn't that dumb.

Johnny Suntrade

21 posted on 05/02/2009 12:10:10 AM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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