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Swine Flu: The Crisis That Never Was (Vanity?)
April 30, 2009 | SlaveNoMore

Posted on 04/30/2009 9:26:18 AM PDT by SlaveNoMore

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To: Tallguy

Yeah the vaccine for the ‘76 flu killed more people than the flu. And even outside of death “precautions” can do a lot of damage. We’ve got a weak economy already, if people start avoiding public places that’s not going to help any.

Then of course there’s the “silly” precautions. One of my favorites was the advice to get 6 months supply of prescription medicines, sounds good on the surface but try getting that much of your drugs approved by any insurance plan, I suppose those of us in border states could always drive down to Mexico...


121 posted on 04/30/2009 10:20:59 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: bdeaner
Slam-dunk!!! Excellent remarks.

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122 posted on 04/30/2009 10:21:21 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

There are TWO stories here.

First, the fact that there is a new strain of swine/avian/human flu is a true story. It includes a limited amount of confirmed deaths, a higher number of suspected deaths, and an unknown actual infection rate. It also appears to show a primary infection locus of Mexico.

Second, there is the pandemic hype, which includes the new Massachusetts “pandmic law” bill, the hysterical and specious 6% death rate, etc. The reports of pandemic are greatly exaggerated, to mangle a phrase.

Pandemics can be real. So far, I have seen no evidence this one is.


123 posted on 04/30/2009 10:21:31 AM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: SlaveNoMore

Wow! Way to bring out the Kool-Aid drinkers in full force!
Less than 300 confirmed cases worldwide, and folks here are screaming Captain Trips!
36,000 flu-related deaths annually in the U.S.
1 from this strain (and the victim had prior complications.)
Get a grip, people!


124 posted on 04/30/2009 10:21:42 AM PDT by astyanax (Had enough Hope and Change yet?)
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To: bdeaner

Wow dude, you just freaked me out, so what stage of denial are we all in? Crap, it’s true, we are all gonna die, well, at least I’m onto acceptance now ...


125 posted on 04/30/2009 10:22:22 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Pandemics are real, they can escalate and kill millions, and for people to say this is a “made up story” are just as reckless as those who claim we are doomed and stir up panic.

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Agreed. As someone on another thread said, we won't know whether or not this is going to be a problem until it's over. It never hurts to have aspirin, bottled water and various staples on hand whether in the event of disease or natural catastrophes. Anyone who has lived in New England in the winter does this as a matter of course.

126 posted on 04/30/2009 10:22:23 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SlaveNoMore

Never let a good crisis go to waste. If there is no crisis, create one.


127 posted on 04/30/2009 10:22:28 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: tatown

I’ll put you down as one vote against emergency public health measures.


128 posted on 04/30/2009 10:22:48 AM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
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To: SlaveNoMore; All

The death toll was only lowered at the pressure of the WHO, which has a vested interest in keeping numbers inaccurate.

“Mexico has lowered its confirmed death toll from swine flu from to seven, after World Health Organisation officials questioned the total.

However, Mexican Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova also raised the toll of “probable’’ deaths from the H1N1 virus from 152 to 159.”


129 posted on 04/30/2009 10:22:55 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: 21twelve
Actually, the 1918 flu first showed up in the spring of 1918 as a mild flu.
You are correct and those who caught it actually benefited by gaining a little more resistance to the more fatal strain that hit in October.
130 posted on 04/30/2009 10:23:00 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Petronski

You have to combine two reports, first the one on them approving the potential declaration of martial law, and second the one showing 2 confirmed cases in MA, but once you add those up that is indeed what the reports say. Based on two cases they have taken the steps necessary to declare martial law. And I want to know if you think that’s a good idea? Answer the question: do you agree that on TWO cases a state should be preparing for martial law?


131 posted on 04/30/2009 10:24:10 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: Scythian
at least I’m onto acceptance now ...

Yes, we need to organize some patriotic flu parties, mariachi bands, tacos, big crowds in public places, best mask and death prizes. Let the good times roll

132 posted on 04/30/2009 10:25:14 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: razorboy
...Based on two cases they have taken the steps necessary to declare martial law....

I'll ask a fourth time. Have they instituted martial law? Has it been declared?

133 posted on 04/30/2009 10:25:16 AM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
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To: Petronski

How about just putting me down as being against Martial Law here? Is it okay to put you down as being for it?


134 posted on 04/30/2009 10:25:25 AM PDT by tatown
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To: oh8eleven

Whenever you set the name “AD Council” look out, the propaganda is incoming in high tonnage!


135 posted on 04/30/2009 10:25:51 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ziravan

In your final paragraph you get to the meat of the problem. There’s no evidence at all that this flu is a cytokine storm producer, yet people are waving 1918 around like it’s an established fact. And you admit that modern medicine would dramatically reduce the deaths from the 1918 flu, which there’s no evidence this flu is anywhere near that bad.


136 posted on 04/30/2009 10:27:15 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: 21twelve

completely agree!

I think we need to understand that the drs and researchers are looking at history (1918, avian, etc) and seeing how the first wave hits in the spring/early summer, then goes almost dormant in the summer/early fall, and comes back harder in the late fall/winter.

Vaccines and medicine to treat or shorten the duration or seriousness of the flu can sometimes take 4-6 months to make. The whole point of raising the level to 5 was so the countries could notify vaccine makers to begin production immediately for availability for this fall.


137 posted on 04/30/2009 10:27:25 AM PDT by KeatsforFirstDog
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To: Petronski; All

Exactly. There have been some troubling posts by Freepers with connections that this could be worse than is reported.

Now, does that mean it is, no. I am skeptical of “my friend told me” reports.

But, to just accept the WHO’s word like gospel truth when they are the ones that pressured Mexico to lower its death toll.....come on.

They have very strong political reasons to minimize this!


138 posted on 04/30/2009 10:27:27 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: oh8eleven

I remeber it well. Intelligent people took note, ignored them and carried on.


139 posted on 04/30/2009 10:28:17 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: bdeaner

Rarely are we treated to such condescending excrement as you just posted!

(actually, its not as rare as it should be)


140 posted on 04/30/2009 10:28:25 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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