Hate Crimes Bill Passes House..No Republicans voted for it

The Phoenix ^ | 4-29-09 | David S. Bernstein

[cradle of freedom]

Take a Democrat to lunch. Thank you, all of you head in the sand Dem voters who still haven’t figured out after 30 years that your party is the party of political correctness and the anti-American values party.

[cradle of freedom]

We are now officially a Euro-Socialist nation.

[cradle of freedom]

The law means whatever the ACLU judge says that it means. How is is going to be interpreted throughout the country especially in the moonbat enclaves? And what about judicial presedent? It only takes one moonbat judge to set a presedent.

Social issues do matter. Some people are really dense on this issue.

[cradle of freedom]

There must be an out for Muslims. You cannot stop the religion of peace from gay bashing to their hearts content. Only non-Muslims can be prosecuted for anti-gay hate crimes.

[fiodora]

“The one thing I’m sure about is that it will defend the faith of Muslims and Christians equally before the law.”

We don’t have to wait for the bill...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04282009/news/regionalnews/smitten_cabbie_cut_up_beauty_166540.htm

A demented Brooklyn livery cabdriver who obsessively fantasized about a beautiful woman in his neighborhood called 911 and told cops, “I killed her. Go inside,” police said yesterday.

Cops then found Almuwallad Saleh sitting on the front stoop of his Coney Island building Sunday night before they entered his apartment — and found the dismembered body of Jessica Giudici, 27, stuffed into four heavy-duty plastic bags, cops said.

One bag held her torso; a second her arms, legs and one eye. A third contained her thighs. Her head was in the fourth bag. Her face and mouth were carved up, police said.

Saleh, 53, “was angry that she was seeing another man,” a law-enforcement source said.

[CottonBall]

Now they can vote against bills they like because they know they will pass anyway.

Sad but true. And so many suckers will fall for it.

That's exactly what the GOP weenies did in CA. The ones that voted to tax us to death were not going for another term. Many of the others said they supported the traitor's decision, while voting against it themselves. If that doesn't speak volumes. They all need to be voted out, but probably won't because voters won't see the scam perpetrated on us.

Plus, this is sickening also: the CA GOP spend MORE money backing prop 1a, that increases the duration of the tax increases than they spend on ads against it. They only came out against it one measly month before the election (not enough time to be effective) and didn't have much money left for those ads. That kind of hypocracy needs to be rewarded. And I'd probably be banned if I voiced how I think they should be 'rewarded'.

[NinoFan]

Right, I understand the concept of such titles and their history. I’m asking for specific history related to a broad interpretation of that part of the constitution that would support your argument concerning class differences and congressional legislation against what it deems discrimination. IOW, Court cases, convention history, etc.

We’re in agreement though that the dems love the concept of slavery.

[muawiyah]

Frankly, until the Democrats came up with this class society business (preferred groups, etc.) I don’t think this was a problem in the US. There are probably no court cases.

[muawiyah]

Here's a problem for you. If you "punish" the Republicans by voting for the Democrats, you will not solve your problem.

You have to defeat those Republicans in the primary so that you have suitible candidates in the general election.

[LayoutGuru2]

All crimes are equal, but some crimes are more equal than others.

[Dan Nunn]

I understand your goal, but I fear the idea could make things much, much worse than they are already. Sorry.

[Bokababe]

Republican Roll Call HR 1913 who voted for it or abstained, plus Democrats who voted against or abstained

Republicans Voting ‘Aye’
Name Voted
Rep. Judy Biggert [R, IL-13] Aye
Rep. Mary Bono Mack [R, CA-45] Aye
Rep. Anh Cao [R, LA-2] Aye
Rep. Bill Cassidy [R, LA-6] Aye
Rep. Michael Castle [R, DE-0] Aye
Rep. Mike Coffman [R, CO-6] Aye
Rep. Charles Dent [R, PA-15] Aye
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart [R, FL-25] Aye
Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart [R, FL-21] Aye
Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen [R, NJ-11] Aye
Rep. Jim Gerlach [R, PA-6] Aye
Rep. Mark Kirk [R, IL-10] Aye
Rep. Leonard Lance [R, NJ-7] Aye
Rep. Frank LoBiondo [R, NJ-2] Aye
Rep. Todd Platts [R, PA-19] Aye
Rep. Dave Reichert [R, WA-8] Aye
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R, FL-18] Aye
Rep. Greg Walden [R, OR-2] Aye

Republicans Voting ‘Abstain’
Name Voted
Rep. Michael Burgess [R, TX-26] Abstain
Rep. Kay Granger [R, TX-12] Abstain

Democrats Voting ‘Nay’
Name Voted
Rep. Dan Boren [D, OK-2] Nay
Rep. Bobby Bright [D, AL-2] Nay
Rep. Christopher Carney [D, PA-10] Nay
Rep. Travis Childers [D, MS-1] Nay
Rep. Artur Davis [D, AL-7] Nay
Rep. Lincoln Davis [D, TN-4] Nay
Rep. Joe Donnelly [D, IN-2] Nay
Rep. Brad Ellsworth [D, IN-8] Nay
Rep. Barton Gordon [D, TN-6] Nay
Rep. Parker Griffith [D, AL-5] Nay
Rep. Mike McIntyre [D, NC-7] Nay
Rep. Charles Melancon [D, LA-3] Nay
Rep. Collin Peterson [D, MN-7] Nay
Rep. Mike Ross [D, AR-4] Nay
Rep. Heath Shuler [D, NC-11] Nay
Rep. John Tanner [D, TN-8] Nay
Rep. Gene Taylor [D, MS-4] Nay

Democrats Voting ‘Abstain’
Name Voted
Rep. Robert Berry [D, AR-1] Abstain
Rep. George Butterfield [D, NC-1] Abstain
Rep. George Miller [D, CA-7] Abstain
Rep. John Murtha [D, PA-12] Abstain
Rep. Thomas Perriello [D, VA-5] Abstain
Rep. C.A. Ruppersberger [D, MD-2] Abstain
Rep. Fortney Stark [D, CA-13] Abstain
Rep. Harry Teague [D, NM-2] Abstain

[dr_who]

Thoughtcrime is on its way to becoming illegal.

[boxlunch]

Hate speech is not illegal, nor would it be under this law. Hate crimes are being punished— i.e., something which is already a crime (asault, murder) will be more heavily punished if motivated by hate. The Supreme Court (in an opinion by Chief Justice Rehnquist) previously held (in a case involving racial prejudice) that hate crimes laws are not unconstitutional because they punish nothing which was legal before.

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From email sent around yesterday, not sure if this take on the bill is accurate, but it seems plausible:

• The main danger is that under U.S. Criminal Statutes, “bodily injury” in the hate crimes bill can be defined by judges or authorities in many legal jurisdictions to include psychological and mental/emotional distress. Theoretically, a gay person or organization seeking to chill freedom of expression about their lifestyle could deliberately attend a church service or listen to a religious broadcast on, say, Romans 1, then go to a psychiatrist and claim they were depressed based on what they heard. That could give them grounds for a federal lawsuit. Even if they lost, the headlines and legal hassle spent by a church or ministry would serve to silence others from giving the whole counsel of God. The proposed hate crimes bill is about more than physical violence; it can be used as a hate speech law, as similar laws in Canada and Europe have been used.

• The above reality is more than theory. While the great majority of gay people are not part of a vast conspiracy to silence Christians, a wealthy and radicalized minority of pro-gay organizations are, and are on record as endorsing this agenda. Further, it’s already a reality in Europe and Canada. Major broadcast ministries in the U.S. must self-censor increasingly “off-limits” assertions about traditional families, criticism of sexual sin, and even terms such as “born again” (in the U.K.) that imply salvation is found only in Christ.

• Members of the House trying to protect religious free speech tried to attach an amendment in committee that would protect religious speech that was not directly advocating violence against anyone. This common sense amendment was rejected by the majority.

• NRB is definitely not a hysterical “right wing” group. They never want to come off as “crying wolf.” If they are this concerned, that’s a huge red flag.

1Tim 2:1-4 is the model for our petitions to God. That passage says the reason we are to pray for those in authority is specifically so that believers can worship and witness unfettered and in peace. Scripture tells us persecutions will come, yet also tells us to pray against it for the sake of the gospel.

[CottonBall]

If you "punish" the Republicans by voting for the Democrats, you will not solve your problem.

Why do you assume that's what I meant? You're reading your agenda into it.

[muawiyah]

Just counseling you on the matter. My agenda, of course, is the elimination of the Democrat party from the memory of man.

So, how is it you propose punishing Republicans?

[CottonBall]

My agenda, of course, is the elimination of the Democrat party from the memory of man.

I'd go for that.

So, how is it you propose punishing Republicans?

I don't think it's a matter of 'punishing' anyone. That's what gets you and some conservatives into trouble, thinking that that is the core issue. We need to get conservatives into positions of power. Period. No matter how it's done.