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Why can't conservatives admit George Bush broke America? (Salon's anonymous "conservaive" explains)
Salon.com ^ | April 27, 2009 | Glenallen Walken

Posted on 04/28/2009 12:33:24 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: PMAS

for all the ****ty things you mentioned, you do realize that there has to be a buyer? nobody stuck a gun to their head


41 posted on 04/28/2009 1:20:14 PM PDT by GreatDaggar
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To: Cheetahcat
Add Rebuilding Iraq too that list With W smiling as they Crept along at a Snails Pace..We should have been out of there in the first 6 months.

How long did it take to capture Saddam Hussein? Should we have left and let him get back into power?
42 posted on 04/28/2009 1:20:32 PM PDT by kenavi (Want a real stimulus? Drill!)
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To: GreatDaggar
...so the economy went down because of deregulation?

That's THEIR claim (liberals). (I don't think so)

But I'm making the point that both parties indulged in 'deregulation'. So if they want to blame the current situation on that, they have to take much of the blame themselves.

43 posted on 04/28/2009 1:23:38 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: GreatDaggar

Yes, you are right. There were the sh*tty buyers of mortgages.
But I will say this, if people don’t have the money to buy a house and someone offers it to them and works it out where they won’t have to lay out any money — a lot of people will take it.
So, I don’t blame them quite as much - some people will do whatever they have to for their family and worry about the consequences later (not talking about the speculators).


44 posted on 04/28/2009 1:29:05 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: presidio9

BDS...


45 posted on 04/28/2009 1:30:20 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'm a PROUD RIGHT WING EXTREMIST.... Obama has failed, IMPEACH Obama NOW....)
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To: LottieDah
The Rats being in complete control is a blessing in disguise.

I absolutely HATE that talk. It is never a blessing in disguise to have one political party in power without any checks and balances (in the political sense - no Republican controlled branches of govern.) for at least two years.

Maybe then the American people will get a clear picture of the Democrats total incompetence.

Has it ever occurred to anyone, that maybe the American people will not get a clear picture. Has it occurred to anyone, that maybe the American people will keep giving the liberals numerous chances with the help of the MSM. I don't mean to sound pessimistic ... but ...

100 days and he still has his support thanks in part to the MSM. Even after numerous controversies so far. His poll numbers are still high ... The previous congress(Dem controlled) had the lowest approval ratings ever ... and were rewarded by having more liberals elected into office.

I do not have faith in the American Public when they receive their news and have their opinions influenced by the MSM.

46 posted on 04/28/2009 1:45:25 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 (The War on Drugs is a failure and is unconsitutional. Stop the madness now!!!)
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To: lonestar67

Both. Bush should have vetoed so much more of the overspending.


47 posted on 04/28/2009 2:05:07 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: presidio9

It wasn’t Bush, it was Andrea Mitchell’s hubby, Alan Greedspan.


48 posted on 04/28/2009 2:06:36 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: pogo101

Fair argument.

The bulk of blame should always rest with Congress because the President is not consitutionally assigned this duty and has only one blunt instrument for trimming the budget. That blunt instrument can have devastating political effect for Republican President speaking to democratically controlled Media.


49 posted on 04/28/2009 2:07:18 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: lonestar67

Agreed! But just as I wouldn’t let Clinton (and won’t let Obama) off the hook for “not vetoing,” I can’t let Bush off the hook for it either.


50 posted on 04/28/2009 2:14:57 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

no problem.

I think your argument is fair.


51 posted on 04/28/2009 2:15:35 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: presidio9
Those who blame Bush for the bursting mortgage bubble overlook his efforts to bring greater regulation to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the way congressional leaders like Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., and Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., interposed themselves between the White House and efforts at reform. Could Bush have done more? Maybe, but he's also not solely to blame.

Loaning massive amounts of money to under qualified borrowers is the problem. The government encouraged it, incentivised it, subsidized it, politicized it and in some cases required it. Socialist policy is breaking the back of capitalism.

52 posted on 04/28/2009 2:17:57 PM PDT by alrea (4% profit on a gallon of gas is obscene but over 15% tax isn't)
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To: presidio9

The unpopularity of the Bush-Cheney administration did soften things up for Obama. But the economic downturn (and the media) helped the One hoodwink the voters. McCain did not do enough to sway opinion in the Fall.


53 posted on 04/28/2009 2:35:22 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
McCain did not do enough to sway opinion in the Fall.

Oh, I dunno. He convinced over half the country to vote for 0bama. I don't like 0bama, but the thought of President McCain staggering around the White House with Meghan doesn't warm the cockles of my heart, either. No matter who won this election, I knew I'd end up with cold cockles.

54 posted on 04/28/2009 2:40:09 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: kenavi

“How long did it take to capture Saddam Hussein? Should we have left and let him get back into power?”

Well I guess if we left the Iraqi army intact to keep the place under control like anyone with half a brain would of done ,Saddam would have been easer to find with their help.


55 posted on 04/28/2009 2:46:52 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat

Plaese tell me you left out a sarcasm tag...


56 posted on 04/28/2009 2:51:24 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Richard Kimball

We could structure a debate about how a milquetoast moderate President McCain would have continued the disaffection for the GOP that Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld really got going, but we’re stuck with Obama now until 2012. Some realistic appraisal of how we got here might be prudent. The media and the orchestrated Fabian dumbing down of the population by Deweyite education certainly had a fair share in that. But a presidential candidate (or president) has to be able to connect with and speak to the American people in competent English tht motivates them to cast their votes for him. How much it was from conservatives staying home or voting for third parties, OK, fair enough, maybe. There were the establishment types overly impressed with Obama’s alleged eloquence and suave hoodwinking.


57 posted on 04/28/2009 2:53:59 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: American_Centurion

Well said!

I am sick of the Bush bashing...especially from FReepers. Why do you think the left and the media always bring this subject up? Because they want us arguing among ourselves and making the argument for them to the whole country about ‘what is wrong with our party’!

There is nothing wrong with our party that a return to our conservative and Reagan roots cannot fix and we had better stop playing their game.


58 posted on 04/28/2009 3:15:13 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Yeah, you’re right! It seems that they are out in force today, for some reason. Well, I hope they are happy with what we have now, Pres. Obama and the whole Congress/Senate in Dem. (far left) leadership! I’m sick of it too!

I would’ve thought by now they would’ve been well, missing Bush a little. I guess not! They’d rather have what they have now. Well, we all are stuck with the left-wing now, even the crabs on here now, and it’s going to be reallllyyy hard to get the left-wing out now!

Maybe these Bush-haters will have their gut full of the left-wing soon. They have nothing but spite for Bush now. Maybe they’ll appreciate what we had when the left-wing regime we have now takes everything away from us all. I doubt it. Ten years from now, it will still be all Bush’s fault!


59 posted on 04/28/2009 3:41:48 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: Teacher317
“Plaese tell me you left out a sarcasm tag...”

NO when it was left up to Bremer For some unfathomable reason!!he disbanded the lot of them! Now you have an unemployed Army..

Think about it and get back! That Puke Constitution was another work of Genius, they should have been handed one and told to use it..

60 posted on 04/28/2009 3:43:55 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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