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To: dmz

It’s the pervasive idea that all systems as we see today,
have come from some more unorganized precursor state. Just
as life (highly ordered) formed by chance /nature/randomness
....
The concept is more philosophical than western “scientific”
As a prime example when some cosmologists talk about a
“beginning” to our universe they talk about random fluctations
of virtual particles coming in and out of existence, then
gathering enough “steam” for lack of a better word to coalesce
and you know the rest of the story....

But how can a particle come in and out of existence? Or is
it that the particle when it goes out of existence is
just undectable to us? Since science supposedly deals with
stuff it can detect, the idea that the virtual particle
can exist outside of our detection methods is ruled out, therefore
it is considered as not existing....But that is a philosophical
position (formed in a mind which is an illusion?), not
necessarily the real truth(shebang, spiel, game, shooting
match, 9 yards, etc). So the term evolutionary astronomer
is one who explains all existing astronomy in terms of
development from unexplained matter to chaos to order and now
back to chaos....


50 posted on 04/28/2009 10:38:24 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

So the term evolutionary astronomer
is one who explains all existing astronomy in terms of
development from unexplained matter to chaos to order and now back to chaos....
______

Thanks for the long reply, but it was missing a crucial piece of information. What can we learn about the origin of the species (biological evolution) from ‘astronomical evolution’?


61 posted on 04/28/2009 11:53:55 AM PDT by dmz
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