Posted on 04/27/2009 9:01:55 PM PDT by FreedomFighter1013
Nature April 27, 2009 Delcan Butler and independent reporting
"The scary thing is that this virus seems enormously transmissible," "Genetics are so novel, that humans are unlikely to have any immunity from it..." "But this is a real super-mixed-up virus." "For me this is the time to start deploying national pandemic plans — we need to act now." "Humans unlikely to have any immunity to it."
Researchers are puzzled over the origins and spread of the current H1N1 human borne influenza and that has health officials around the world worried.
The current virus mixes an existing triple combination of human, avian and swine influenza identified in 1998 with two new swine virus genes from Asia and Europe, both of human origin. More here
(Excerpt) Read more at gregcontreras.us ...
I went to the original source. It sure doesn’t sound good.
The bigger question is, is it man made or just a freak of nature?
“Dr. Robert Webster at St Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis calls it “...a real super-mixed-up virus,” adding, “where the hell it got all these genes from we don’t know.”
Sounds like it was engineered. Escaped from a lab or was it released on purpose?
So we’ve got 40 cases, some who have already recovered. And what’s the incubation period...didn’t I read 48 hours somewhere. And only one person has required hospitalization.
If it’s highly contagious, won’t we see the families of those who already had the disease coming down with it soon?
The “let’s develop a specific swine flu vaccine” idea, considering what happened in 1976, seems a little premature.
I found this info by googling, it is death rates, just for children who died from the flu, not for adults:
During the 2003-04 season, 153 flu-associated deaths in children were reported to CDC. (This data was collected by CDC.)
During the 2004-05 season, 47 deaths in children were reported to CDC. (This is the first year that influenza mortality in children became a nationally reportable condition.)
During the 2005-06 season, 46 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
During the 2006-07 season, 76 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
As of June 14, 2008, 83 deaths in children occurring during the 2007-08 season have been reported to CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/season.htm
We’re not used to normal infections. Compare this to the last polio epidemics. A little early to be talking about pandemics.
I still think this is a distraction from something the White House is trying to pull.
I know, I know, I need to take off my tin foil hat. But every time there is something in the past 100 days, the 0bama bunch slides in some other Commie policy.
So, I'm about 99.7% sure this is natural, but I will leave a 0.3% chance that the Chinese or someone is testing a bug on the general population.
Every living thing is an evolutionary product of nature, humans included.
I dunno. That kinda didn’t work out with the Africanized killer bees. They thrived once released.
Headlines like this have me wondering about Captain Tripps here..
Wow. This is like a sci-fi movie come alive. Capricorn One. There’s no question the Feds are using this flu as an excuse to create mass hysteria.
Placemarker for breakfast reading ...
The very words "product" and "nature" at their root imply a Creator.
My question is in line with your incubation question. Lets just have everyone stay home and refuse the virus the opportunity to infect the uninfected. As well off as even the poorest in this country (Welfare, Foodstamps, WIC) I am sure most could last at least a few weeks. If there are people who need supplies they could have distro locations in the communities and use FEMA/National Guard. And think of all the polution reduction from no one going to work.
In the wild, viruses are conduction billions of experiments every day. I would bet on natural too.
However, there is one other possiblity. CIA found someone working on a deadly form of this virus and US labs engineered a relatively "benign" form that would protect the world with immunity. It would be like the old live polio vaccine they used to use that would occassionaly cause the disease itself but mostly protected everyone else.
Which would explain why it quickly racked up a huge death toll in the place where it initially turned up, but then just as quickly showed a dramatic loss of killing ability, as it spread to other regions.
And if you engineered a communicable disease pathogen with the intent of wreaking havoc on the United States, setting it loose in Mexico would be a brilliant scheme. Mexican government has no functioning law enforcement-investigative ability, practically no public health capabilities, and Mexicans are constantly running over the border into the US. You could ensure that it would pop up in multiple parts of the US simultaneously, and that the ultimate origin would remain untraceable.
"Virologists think they may be in for the long haul. "Will this fizzle out? It doesn't look like it to me," says McCauley. "For me this is the time to start deploying national pandemic plans — we need to act now."
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