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Shortage of Doctors an Obstacle to Obama Goals
NY Times ^ | April 27, 2009 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 04/27/2009 4:22:50 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Next step: affirmative action doctors.

(from the Affirmative Action Pres__ent).

Cheers!

21 posted on 04/27/2009 5:12:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: plain talk

Tax credits or loan forgiveness is a damn sight cheaper than anything the Zero administration is going to cook up.

It’s also a damn sight cheaper than increasing medicare/medicaid payments across the board in perpetuity.

Would you spend a nickel to save $500?


22 posted on 04/27/2009 5:13:57 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: neverdem

Unleash a deadly pandemic. Problem solved. /sarc.?


23 posted on 04/27/2009 5:14:36 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Valpal1

I dont want to give a doctor one dime. Zero. Nothing. That’s crazy. What’s the matter with you?


24 posted on 04/27/2009 5:16:08 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: neverdem

Import ‘em from Cuba [/sarc]


25 posted on 04/27/2009 5:17:17 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: plain talk

Dude, you already are through your payroll taxes. You’re paying for any doctor that accepts medicare or medicaid.


26 posted on 04/27/2009 5:19:45 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: plain talk

***The cheap fix is to pay or forgive their student loans in exchange for practicing as a primary care position for 3 years.
You want ME to pay off doctor’s loans? Is that what you just said?***

Just wait.

Zero will forgive ALL student loans if he thinks it will help him in the next election.


27 posted on 04/27/2009 5:23:07 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: maggief

***Unleash a deadly pandemic. Problem solved. /sarc.?***

How LOL Jonathan Swift of you.


28 posted on 04/27/2009 5:24:12 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: neverdem

You think there is a shortage now, wait until they actually start implementing their plans.

We’ll be importing doctors from Mexico, the Philippines, Brazil, etc.


29 posted on 04/27/2009 5:45:37 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: The Great RJ

As a physician would you really like working in a government controlled clinic where some faceless bureaucrat tells you how to treat patients?
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Our family physician said he won’t do it and they are looking at homes in Panama, good choice. Every other physician we know is vehemently opposed to working for the government and some flat out said they would leave or retire early.


30 posted on 04/27/2009 6:06:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“Patients, that would be guys like me, should have the option to legally ‘opt out’ of the frivolous lawsuits. Then a dual pricing plan could be offered.”

Frivolous lawsuits do not get filed unless a patient first goes to a lawyer. Not all lawyers are bad, and most will not file frivolous claims.

Patients like you and me (yes, I am a patient, too) do not need to opt out, because we’re only going to sue if there is a serious case for true malpractice, which certainly does happen.

look, (and i am not talking to you, BE) most folks will never feel sorry for doctors, and I do not blame you. This is reflected in the comments above. Some docs are egotistical jerks, who treat folks like crap. But most of us are just regular people, who have worked very hard to obtain training and a license, and in most cases have gone far into debt to get educated. Now the rules are being changed on us, and it doesn’t sit well with very many of us at all.

Our “patriotic duty” will be to work our tails off, at very high risk jobs (liability-wise), for relatively little pay. Very few of us over the age of 50 will continue to practice medicine. This country thinks there is a doctor shortage now? It’s gonna get a lot worse...


31 posted on 04/27/2009 6:52:34 PM PDT by Clarence (back to lurking now...)
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To: Clarence

In my particular case having just been diagnosed with invasive breast cancer I would be suing the damned officious bureaucrats at the Dept of Health and Welfare in Idaho, especially their director and the woman they assigned to appease me who initially threatened to deport me even though I legally entered this country and then offered me a “carrot” of finding a surgeon willing to cut off the breast and then wait to see if the surgery would possibly be covered as something considered an emergency. And by the way, after the surgery there would be NO follow up treatment even though another lump was discovered during the initial surgical consultation. Welcome to Socialized medicine like Canada has, I lived it before coming down here!


32 posted on 04/27/2009 6:58:49 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: neverdem
Increasing the supply of doctors, for example, would increase access to care but could make it more difficult to rein in costs.

Only if demand isn't being met at the moment. Looks like another little rationing hint.

33 posted on 04/27/2009 7:05:51 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: arthurus

Two years ago, the NHS introduced an automated system for placement of new physicians. It functioned so poorly that roughly half that year’s graduates didn’t get assigned anywhere. That, and the NHS importing large numbers of doctors from India, is the reason many of England’s brighter new doctors don’t practice in England.

Good reading:
http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/
http://www.drrant.net/


34 posted on 04/27/2009 7:13:03 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Valpal1

In my local practice, half the physicians providing primary care are specialists who haven’t yet built up a full-time practice in their area of specialty. My GP is a nephrologist. My asthma gets short shrift, but I get lots and lots of speculative questions about kidney function. Fortunately, the practice has a great nurse practitioner/medical student who is actually providing most of my primary care.


35 posted on 04/27/2009 7:21:11 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: xJones
It's a privately owned hospital now, and those without medicare, medicaid, no insurance at all are sent by ambulance to the nearest large city hospital that has to accept anyone regardless of citizenship.

Hopefully they don't have an ER. If they do, the feds are going to come after them.

36 posted on 04/27/2009 7:23:28 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Most of the specialists I’ve dealt with have a mandatory arbitration form they want new patients to sign. That’s their solution to the “opt out” issue.


37 posted on 04/27/2009 7:27:18 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: neverdem

Health Care in America wasn’t broken till the Government got involved in the first place. Starting programs like Medicare & Medicaid have really screwed things up by making Doctors spend more time with paperwork than patients. Now the Government wants to finish the job by taking it over completely. To make matters worse they want to do the same with energy. I feel terrible for the youth of this Nation. Were going to leave them a total disaster.


38 posted on 04/27/2009 7:28:00 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: CriticalJ; rfp1234
I'm not that worried about docs from the countries that you mentioned. I'm more worried about their religion like the doctors plot in the UK.
39 posted on 04/27/2009 8:40:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: The Great RJ

Well, for that matter, welcome to Tricare.


40 posted on 04/28/2009 1:10:45 AM PDT by ketelone
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