Posted on 04/27/2009 9:08:01 AM PDT by reaganaut1
"But the average person’s subjective judgment that they utilize when they buy their clothes, when they buy their furniture, when they buy whatever, is more than adequate."
What a concept, letting people decide for themselves. As Thomas Sowell wrote,
“Freedom is . . . the right of ordinary people to find elbow room for themselves and a refuge from the rampaging presumptions of their ‘betters.’”
Two biggest uses of energy: mobility and heating (and cooling). Everything else is just noise along with the arguments over what to light with. Personally I prefer whale oil in my lamps, it’s less sooty.
Let the ‘greenies’ and lefties sit on their compact florescents and slowly rotate.
If you cut your hand on a CFD get to a hospital or you’ll be dead in a month.
Well, as it happens, we have wall sconces in a couple of rooms, and a couple of chandeliers. They take those smaller size screw-in bulbs with clear glass.
I can’t imagine how those could possibly be replaced with something that would not be highly offensive to the eye.
I use compact flourescents throughout the rest of the house, but I’ve begun assembling a lifetime’s supply of bulbs for the wall sconces and chandeliers. We inherited the sconces from a great aunt, and they are real antiques.
In any case, the government has no damned business outlawing a kind of light bulb that has been used ever since we got off of whale oil and candles.
Thanks for posting.
One thing I've noticed is that somebody, hopefully me, is going to make a whale of a lot of money with NEW lamp designs that take full advantage of LED capabilities.
At the moment most of your LED lamps are using retrofitted CFL and incandescent brackets ~ which is all wrong. Some new LED systems simply use small panels wired together. You get more light with more panels and you can glue them on what amounts to a lampshade.
An obvious way of looking at things...that I never considered. It made me think about my own situation:
I’m sitting in an office (14’ x 12’), which would be lit by one fixture (two 100 watt bulbs) if it were a bedroom in my house.
Instead, there are four flourescent fixtures (12 bulbs). The bulbs say 32 watt on them, so combined, thats 384 watts.
Heck, I could even have two fixtures with two 75 watt bulbs each (300 watt).
Or four can lights (75 watt).
Anything would give me better lighting than these stupid flourescent. Luckily, I do save energy, since at any given time, at least three bulbs are burnt out (since they last sooo long).
I’m sure there is some savings on air conditioning, because of no heat from the flourescent...but why in the heck do office buildings use this crappy light, if there is no real energy savings. And why would I ever use these in my home, if it takes TWELVE bulbs to light one office?
Once LEDs get a bit cheaper, they'll end up replacing both; they have all the best features of each and none of the drawbacks of either (except cost, for the time being).
100 watt incandesant light lets out most of that 100 watss as heat, the ac if 50% efficent needs nearly 200 watts to cool the building. many offices run AC even in winter (at least in california) cuase teh heat build up with all the workers, lights and computers actually over heats the building!!
so that 100 watt light buld may take close to 200watts to cool the building total is about 300 watts for cooling and light switch to a floresent of say 40 watts, get about teh same light and almost no extra AC load. this would be about a 260 watt savings per 100 watt buld replaced with a 40 watt flouresent.
in home use, or in an area where heat is needed, these big savings are less.
Thanks for the education (post 13). Makes sense to me...and my employer was able to freely choose to use flourescent lighting. I do dread the day when I no longer have that choice at home.
Perhaps. But the cold weather performance of fluorescent bulbs is terrible. Try putting one in your outdoor light in a cold climate....
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Your submission for FR's "Dumb@$$ Statement of the Month" contest?
I save my bucks by not running the air conditioner.
Incandescent light bulbs, along with big screen TVs, help heat a home in winter. If they are replaced with something more energy efficient, the heating bill will go up to compensate. Although air conditioning costs are higher in summer, in most places the total heating cost for the year is larger than the air conditioning cost.
I too have been stockpiling the regular light bulbs. I think I now have enough to last me for the rest of my life. I don’t think they go bad sitting on the shelf—there’s no “use by” date on them.
Now I no longer feel important and part of a social movement with it's cloths, music, magazines, guru's, food, etc.
Did you know US tax money is still being spent telling Americans that we're running out of water and need to conserve? What ever happened to acid rain? I thought by the year 2000 all our forests would be dead? Why was the year 2000 BTW this magic number? I guess the ozone hole is doing better now? Must be, because I haven't gotten skin cancer yet like we all surely would. Thank God for the billions spent on new refrigerants that don't work as well and tend to leak more! From DDT to Global Warming, it's 90% social movement and 10% science.
Here's the key difference. Today it is “big business” that is green. Green rules, laws, subsidies, etc. amount to firms like DuPont years past making fortunes on what amounts to selling cans of fresh air or pet rocks. It's not ridiculous, it's the truth. From Gore's Carbon offset scheme's to mandatory recycling laws that line the pockets of the so called do gooders, the real perverted greed and corruption today rests in those that want to more or less force people to play along in a game that's all essentially make belief. Ultimately, even if you don't buy the party line and reject the nonsense, you will STILL be forced to play along and give your money to those pushing these laws. Did you know GE held numerous patents on CFLs and has been one of the largest profiteers in this new emerging market? It's not a theory, check it up!
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