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To: Sherman Logan; Travis McGee
“What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? and then claim it doesn’t call for murder of LEOs.

99.999% of us around here, and I include Travis in that 99.999%, have no interest in murdering LEOs who are committed to "keeping the peace" in the classical sense.

The problem lies with the militarized SWAT teams with enough equipment to make the Marines in Fallujah look like kids playing paintball.

The guys who make Posse Commitatus irrelevant.

The kind of guys who murdered Mario Paz, Ismael Mena and Donald Scott, and dozens of others.

Solzhenitsyn's recommendations are 100% appropriate for those guys.

81 posted on 04/27/2009 2:40:14 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Okey, dokey.

You try explaining that profound difference to all the other cops.

Somehow I don’t think they will agree with you.

In most communities the SWAT guys are part-timers, putting on the fancy doodads only when a crisis arrives or for training. IOW, they are ordinary cops 90% of the time.

I cheerfully agree that the SWAT-types have gotten out of control in a lot of ways. However, I would be surprised if there has actually been an increase over the last 40 or so years in cops killing unarmed civilians.

They just used to do a much better job of covering it up. I had a friendly neighborhood cop once show me his “drop-gun.” He carried it all the time to drop on the floor if he ever shot an unarmed suspect. This was just routine police work where I grew up. The standard term, BTW, at the time for a police baton was a ______-knocker, using the N word.

Things are worse in some ways. In many they are better.


82 posted on 04/27/2009 2:57:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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