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but, but, that’s impossible, information that guides the processes of the most ‘primitive’ cell and that contains tons of sophisticated info....why, it all came by random time chance and mutation...

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5 posted on 04/25/2009 9:40:50 AM PDT by raygunfan
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And yet that is their position...Amazing isn’t it?!?!?


7 posted on 04/25/2009 9:46:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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"came by random time chance and mutation"

There are no completely random events in the universe. Everything is bounded by the laws of physics which impose some ... or rather a very large amount ... of order on the universe.

It is very likely that God set up the laws of physics, but those are all you need to get from the Big Bang to humans accusing each other of apostasy because of varying views on how we got here.

The basic particles and forces give you photons, atoms, etc. And not just any atoms, but only those with self-consistent properties.

The expression of those basic forces at a higher level give you molecules ... and not just any molecules ... but those where the binding forces between the atoms are consistent with the laws of physics.

The expression of those basic forces at a higher level give you more complicated molecules such as proteins, which leads to RNA which leads to DNA, which leads to mankind.

This is not a completely random process. There are probabilistic elements to it, but everything is guided to the conclusion that God wanted.

I can't tell you what the next number will be to come up on a particular roulette wheel in Vegas. But I am certain that you will lose money if you play that wheel for an extended period of time.

I can't tell you what will come in the future, but I can assure you that because we exist in a universe that appears to be guided by fixed physical rules that it will not be a purely random reorientation of mass and energy.

Increase in complexity on earth is consistent with billions of years of net mass/energy gain due to sunlight, meteor/asteroid impacts, etc.

27 posted on 04/27/2009 7:10:14 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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