Here's some more pie Andrew ... digg in.
Posted on 04/23/2009 10:15:32 AM PDT by steve-b
The assertion of total power through unchecked violence - outside the Constitution, beyond the reach of the law (apart from legal memos from hired hacks instructed to retroactively redefine torture into 'legality') - will be seen in retrospect as the key defining theory of Bush conservatism. It ended with torture. Why? Because reality may differ from ideology; and when it does, it is vital to create reality to support ideology. And so torture creates reality by coercing "facts" from broken bodies and minds.
This is how torture is always a fantastic temptation for those in power, even if they first use it out of what they think is necessity or good intentions: it provides a way for them to coerce reality into the shape they desire. This is also why it is so uniquely dangerous. Because it creates a closed circle of untruth, which is then used to justify more torture, which generates more "truth." This is the Imaginationland some of us have been so concerned about.
The Western anathema on torture began as a way to ensure the survival of truth.....
(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com ...
Ive said before, and Ill say it again...GO AWAY, DWEEB!
LOL! He could do it, too. With his little finger.
Face it, Andrew: the idea of torture sends a thrill up your leg.
HA!!
Yea.
But HTH did the sand get in his mouth. :^)
Thank you.
There are no broken bones, blood, severed heads, loose teeth, hell not even a bruise in sight. This heavy handed interrogation is somewhat less than I would do to save the life of my child, grandchild, or even neighbor if I could.
“...Bush conservatism...” Please, ...why does this oaf construe his mixed bag of loony mush to have anything to do with conservatism, unless he is remotely linking Bush’s actions to the conservation of human lives that would have been killed by terrorists. Otherwise, he must be saying that leftwing kooks, like Stalin, Mao, Castro, Hitler or Ortega don’t resort to torture.
“...to create reality to support ideology...” If ever there was a definition of Statist utopianism, this is it. I guess we are free to call modern liberalism torture, and now we are going to be tortured by radically left tribunals of Bush Administration officials who did their job of defending America.
The writer of this diatribe is an idiot, but we’ve known that for years.
“I can kill you with my brain.”
Reading this creeps twisted logic is torture.
Ohhhhh. ;)
Pfft.
He said... CONSTITUTION... heh, heh, heh... heh, heh (Beavus & Butthead style)
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