Birth of Cloned Human Just Days Away? (U.S.-Based Fertility Doctor)

The Times of India ^ | 4/23/09

[isom35]

MST3K did a documentary about this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0655438/

[mvpel]

Zavos said that his goal is to help infertile couples who can't have babies naturally, so that at least one of the parents can be reproduced as a twin of themselves through cloning.

Hard to believe that some people are so narcissistic that they would go to these lengths to have a child instead of just adopting one of the hundreds of thousands of children already born and waiting for families.

[Darwin Fish]

"Are you arguing that not all twins have a soul? Or are you just making an atheist argument against souls altogether?"

Not arguing anything, just seeking opinion. It is a simple question, actually. If life begins at conception, and there is no conception, is it life? If this irritates you, I am sorry. But perhaps I am the canary in the coal mine. The question is not going to go away. There have to be many, many folks asking the same question, and the church is going to have to answer, eventually. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but it is not going away.

I believe in God with all my heart. Peace.

[a fool in paradise]

I pointed out how 2 fetus can grow from 1 “conception”. You skated around my evidence and the original question about twins.

[Slings and Arrows]

Take it, Weird Al!

[Darwin Fish]

I concede that twins are human, and two different and sacred souls. No problem there. God bless them.

But what about cloned people? No conception at all. What is your opinion as to their souls and is it possible to have a soul without conception? Not being a contrarian, just wondering, and don’t know what to think.

So I am just asking you and everyone, if there is no conception, is the person, well, human? Is there a soul? Yes or no?

[a fool in paradise]

From where comes the soul of the twin who splits off the child conceived through “conception”? You are hung up on a word. Does the soul also divide when the second embryo splits off?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I think some things should not be tampered with, even if theoretically possible.

Nailed it. It's not "what can I do," but "what should I do."

[Darwin Fish]

Is that a yes or no?

[a fool in paradise]

You are hung up on a word "conception" of a sperm connecting with an egg. There are other means of creation. Such cell division occurs naturally as well as these scientists unnatural inducement.

At the moment of creation, it becomes a unique being. That being can be subdivided but that becomes the creation of something new. The old still remains.