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To: Wonder Warthog
Recent historical research has shown that a bunch of “artisan-monks” at a convent in what was eventually the heart of England’s “iron revolution” area were on the brink of inventing the production of steel.

Link please.

The monks could not have "invented" steel. Quite good, even exceptional, steel had been made for many centuries at this time, for instance by the Romans, Indians and Japanese. It just wasn't made in quantities that allowed it to be used for purposes other than for the most part arms and armor.

What the Industrial Revolution (eventually) provided was not steel, but rather cheap steel, cheap enough that it could be used for structural purposes.

53 posted on 04/22/2009 4:16:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan
What the Industrial Revolution (eventually) provided was not steel, but rather cheap steel, cheap enough that it could be used for structural purposes.

Steel didn't really become cheap until the invention of the Bessemer process in 1855, by which time the Industrial Revolution was well established, "And Iron -- Cold Iron -- was master of it all!"

56 posted on 04/22/2009 4:28:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Competent small-government conservative = close enough for government work)
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To: Sherman Logan
"Link please."

Info is from a paper magazine I read some time back. Don't know if there is a link.

"The monks could not have "invented" steel. Quite good, even exceptional, steel had been made for many centuries at this time, for instance by the Romans, Indians and Japanese. It just wasn't made in quantities that allowed it to be used for purposes other than for the most part arms and armor. What the Industrial Revolution (eventually) provided was not steel, but rather cheap steel, cheap enough that it could be used for structural purposes.

Which, as I recall the article, was precisely what the monks had almost perfected--large-scale production methodology (relative to the times). They were "on the cusp" of inventing the steel revolution. Henry screwed that. If he could have kept it in his pants, we'd probably have interplanetary travel today.

59 posted on 04/22/2009 6:01:36 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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