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To: Sherman Logan

The Tudors, beginning with Fat Hank, laid the foundations not for freedom but for the modern police state, including judicial murder, domestic spying, and unrelenting propaganda. Henry was a terrorist and social engineer on a massive scale.


10 posted on 04/22/2009 11:47:16 AM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Romulus
The Tudors, beginning with Fat Hank, laid the foundations not for freedom but for the modern police state, including judicial murder, domestic spying, and unrelenting propaganda.

On that definition the first police state was the Papal States from 1357 to 1870

How was Henry VIII responsible for that?

44 posted on 04/22/2009 2:53:01 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Competent small-government conservative = close enough for government work)
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