Posted on 04/20/2009 10:58:31 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior
Ten years ago today, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold stormed their high school with bombs and guns. They killed 15 people, including themselves, and injured 23 others, some severely. The nation thought the shooters’ parents were mostly to blame. Adults cast a suspicious eye on high-school-age males who were bullied, played violent video games, listened to Marilyn Manson, took an interest in the macabre, enjoyed shooting guns, or dressed like “Goths.”
Americans had to respond somehow, but at the time they could not respond to the facts: There was little information available, and much of what was available was false. The county police department suppressed and even destroyed key documents, the confusion of the situation spawned many myths, and people’s biases spawned many more.
But now that the police documents have become public and some investigators have been willing to speak to the press, we have a basically complete account of the day’s events and the surrounding circumstances. Journalist Dave Cullen, who’s been on the story since the beginning, pulls that account together in Columbine.
The book is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand what happened on April 20, 1999. Cullen arranges the story almost like a novel, with various storylines advancing simultaneously. His prose is clear, simple, and direct. Through the facts he presents, his own analysis, and the analyses of others, Cullen provides good answers to the two central questions: What exactly happened that day? And what made Harris and Klebold do it?
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Same happened in NY a week ago. Cops arrived in minutes, waited and hour to go in.
Ever watch 'Cops'?
One line you hear over and over.
'..and I get to go home tonight'.
What's the point of having SWAT teams dressed like stormtroopers and then they stand around until it's deemed safe for them to enter.
We all said “If that happened back home we would have ran to our cars and grabbed our own guns.”
But that was in Nebraska, in different time.
Gees, it felt like yesterday. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold are your run in the mill psychopaths. Harris and Klebold were bullies and gleefully bragged about it in their diaries.
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold are proof that some people born evil like Fred Phelps, Lori Drew, Osama bin Laden/September 11 Terrorists, Adolf Hitler, and Joseph Stalin.
I believe anyone can be trained to spot a psychopath, even though they are masters of deceit. Sociopathic behavior exhibits a broad range. There are many telltale signs:
Pathological lying
Total lack of remorse, guilt, or conscience
Refusal to accept responsibility
Conning/manipulative
Glibness/superficial charm.
Grandiosity
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Shallow affect
Callous/lack of empathy
Parasitic lifestyle
Poor behavioral controls
Promiscuous sexual behavior
Early behavior problems
Impulsivity
Many short-term relationships
Criminal versatility
Sociopathy is primarily genetic, and there is no treatment. It can be spotted in young children who gleefully inflict pain on others and who laugh off any attempt to shame them for theior cruelty. The only protection against psychopaths is to avoid them at all costs. This is why the idea of “rehabilitation” of career criminals, almost all of whom are psychopaths, is out of the question. Most politicians and many lawyers exhibit psychopathic behavior.
The Clintons are a textbook example of a psychopath with a companion enabler. At Columbine, harris was the psychopath, Klebold was the enabler. Do-gooders are the psychopath’s best friends, because do-gooders are enablers who assist in facilitating mayhem and avoiding consequences.
Conscience free? Haven’t we been told for many years that there is no right or wrong, no absolutes - it’s just a matter of opinion. There was even advice from “experts” that used to be promoted in the media that parents shouldn’t pass their values on to the children but let them make up their own minds when they grew up.
One thing is for sure, this type of bizarre behavior co-incides with the liberal overturning of all of our values and concepts of reality.
I think feminism also has done much damage to the psychology of males. They have stripped males of a sense of self and special purpose in life. Throughout their formative years, young males only hear negative things about themselves. And if they have a feminist mother and clueless father, they are especially vulnerable. It is very odd, but you did not hear of these kinds of crimes in other generations.
Kind of interesting too that they got their 9mm ammunition from a fellow *trenchcoat Mafia* member Scott Fuselier. Who apparently got it from his dad.
Who, by the way, was one of the FBI investigators into the massacre. And honest, neither his son's video nor the ammo played an important role in the homicides....
But let's not talk about that. Guns are bad, right?
I was in there when it was still a crime scene, they wanted to get some ventilation going in the library and the fire alarm was holding it out. Most of the “bombs” were like oversized firecrackers. They had strikers (emery paper?) on their sleeves to light them on and throw them. There were body outlines over blood pools and placards with names on them. And goo on a shattered ceiling tile over the placard that said Harris. They burned some ammo in there.
I was there sometimes to work in the mechanical room and parked my truck by the outside door. There was a .45 in the glove box. The interior door opened into the hallway just down from the library. Shame I wasn’t there that day.
As it happened I was sitting in the school district security office working on some software issues with a Johnson Controls tech. We watched as it unfolded, on TV news and listening to the security radio traffic. After some hours and when we finished up, the JCI tech said he better go find out where his son, a student there, was at. Unfortunately, he was in the library working on homework.
A relative of mine is on the SWAT unit of another Colorado police agency; he went into the line of work an uncle of mine was in and I went to the military side instead. But he paid some very close professional attention to the methods of the responding units, and was not then nor later has he been impressed. *Cowards* was just one of his conclusions.
Based on the outcome, hard to disagree. Surprising in that the Jefferson County Sheriffs Department was a pretty good department then, and still is I suppose. Not sure who was running the show that day, but they were initially. The Sheriff ended up drinking and not running again because of the fallout.
They controlled the outside and secured the perimeter, the *textbook* operating procedure for the day. Reportedly, JCSD was ordered by the feds not to make entry, and to wait until the federal SWAT units and TV cameras were there.
Among other procedures that in retrospect seem a bit uncalled for: the fed entry team of clearing rooms with full-auto fire that included full magazine dumps, including one instance in which it nearly killed a surviving witness hiding in a cabinet.
Bad juju all the way around. I thought Denver PD swat assumed lead because they “had experience”. Every jurisdiction sent people. They all took cover and waited...
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