Ammo shortage a concern for area (Read last line)

clarecountyreview ^ | 4/15/2009 | Pat Maurer

[MarkL]

I’m new to reloading and firearms in general. I need 40 caliber primers and bullets. I have all the brass I could ever want. Any tips for where to get these components online? I’m expecting a waiting list, I just want a reputable source.

All I can say is "good luck." Try Dillon Precision & Midway... You should be able to find bullets (loaded ammo in 40S&W is plentiful around here, a local shop has a wall of Federal and W/W cases of loaded .40S&W), but from what I hear, you may be out of luck at finding primers anywhere.

Mark

[super7man]

I am trying to understand what the deal is on 380. Is it that the caliber is not very popular so the suppliers don’t make much? Or is it that it is very popular and supplier can’t make enough? I have been looking for 380 for two months in Calif and AZ. I am down to 200 rounds. I guess I’ll shoot up 192 of those and wait.

[rellimpank]

--"More gun owners is the only way legislation can be stopped."--

--we've already got somewhere around two hundred million, the vast majority of whom don't even belong to the NRA, don't write their congressman (or even know its name, in most cases), and in large numbers of them don't vote or voted for Obobo--what good are more of that kind going to do?

[behzinlea]

I bought a Glock 19 yesterday from a local dealer. I was able to pick up plenty of Speer Lawman 124 gr. TMJ CF ammunition for range practice at $14.99 per box of 50. But that’s about all they had on the shelf. The had no 9mm ammo specifically for personal defense.

[MarkL]

The reason is undoubtedly that the primer makers are putting all those primers into ammunition that they can sell at a much higher profit. That, and they are selling them to the major ammo manufacturers instead of at retail.

The "primer manufacturers ARE the major ammo manufacturers. For example, at the Lake City AAP in Independence, MO, they manufacture primers for their own use. I was there the day one of their primer compound mixing houses blew up. Very loud. From what I hear, all the manufacturers are working 3 shifts to try to keep up with demand. It doesn't really have a whole lot to do with maximizing profits by selling the primers to the highest bidder. It's about having enough primers to manufacture the ammo for which they have orders.

Mark

[Gritty]

Around here, a month ago I was able to buy 1 box of small pistol primers for $50/1000. *Gasp!*. I went ahead anyway and bought them, simply because I was desperate and needed them.

Today, the same price tag is there on the shelf - but no primers. So, I suppose the price has now stabilized...

[Peet]

The Bamster is also on record as saying he believes the Constitution is “fundamentally flawed.”

Most frightening is the recording of Zero on the Chicago NPR station back when he was a state senator. He complained that the constitution was a list of "negative rights" that prohibited govt. from "doing all it can".

Yep -- the "constitutional scholar" Zero complaining about restrictions on govt. power (not "rights" fool).

Peet (very afraid)

[TXnMA]

"I have all the brass I could ever want."

Wait until you really "get rolling" with reloading. You'll soon discover the old adage, "You can never have too much brass! ;-)

(Taking the kids' metal locator with me to my range this afternoon -- for a thorough "policing up"...)

[Professional Engineer]

To a Marxist, that means “arbitrary and lawless activism”.

Seems I've read that somewhere recently.

(page 37, “Liberty and Tyranny” by Mark Levin) Great book btw!

Like on that page. Last night.

[PapaBear3625]

Before his election, President Barack Obama said, “My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons bans as soon as I take office. Within 90 days, we will go back after kitchen table dealers and work to end the gun show and internet sales loopholes. In the first year I intend to work with congress on a national no carry law, a one gun a month purchase limit and bans on all semi-automatic guns.”

FactCheck.org disputes the "national no carry" claim, but National Review August 27, 2008 article has:

According to a 1996 questionnaire he filled out while running for the Illinois Senate, Obama promised to support a ban on “the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.” Even though Obama’s handwriting appeared on the questionnaire, Obama’s campaign would claim earlier this year that his staff filled it out and he was completely unaware of the answer he had given. You don’t have to go back that far to find Obama taking an extreme stance against gun rights. In 2004, while running for the U.S. Senate, he promised to bar citizens nationwide from receiving concealed-carry permits. The Chicago Tribune reported then that Obama “backed federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement.” Obama explained his plan to pre-empt state concealed-carry laws with a federal bill: “National legislation,” Obama said at the time, “will prevent other states’ flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents.”

[1010RD]

You only have to know he is a Cook County Democrat to know where he stands not only on gun rights, but individual rights as well.

[Max in Utah]

I am trying to understand what the deal is on 380. Is it that the caliber is not very popular so the suppliers don’t make much?

Remember the news about first-time gun owners and concealed carry permits? My guess is, lots of people buying lower-priced .380 cal. pistols and needing ammo for them. Another guess: most people don't like to plink with pocket pistols so there was never a large amount of .25, .32 or .380 ammo produced.

My girlfriend got on the backorder list for a Ruger LCP .380 and we've been looking for ammo. Haven't found a single box here locally, but I've been looking on Saturdays. The man at one shop said that they sell out a couple days after receiving new shipments on Tuesdays.

[Cboldt]

-- the National Firearms Act of '34, the Gun Control Act of '68, and the Assault Weapons ban of '94. All survived constitutional challenges --

The way I read Miller in light of facts not available to the Court, the NFA did not withstand the constitutional challenge on appeal. The issue on appeal was absence of a finding that a short barrel shotgun had any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense. If SCOTUS had that "finding," the Miller case stands for the proposition that it (SCOTUS) would have ruled the NFA unconstitutional.

The District Court in fact found the NFA to be unconstitutional in light of the 2nd amendment. SCOTUS remanded the case.

It is most disappointing that 9 of 9 SCOTUS judges got the Miller absolutely wrong in the Heller decision, and there is no intellectually defensible reason for the chronic error.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

You can never have too much brass

A close buddy of mine is a cop and the rangemaster at his dept. 90% of the officers there fire .40. He sweeps up the spent brass and gives them to me free. My supply is virtually unlimited. For now. I just have to find some primers.

[TXnMA]

You are most fortunate! Happy loading — and shooting!

[Atlas Sneezed]

I don’t dispute those reports of his positions and survey answers, but the quote appears to be a fake.

[PapaBear3625]

Whether the quote is fake, as distinct from being unreported in the MSM, it is documentably in alignment with positions he has openly expressed at one point or another.

[BILL_C]

Obama explained his plan to pre-empt state concealed-carry laws with a federal bill: “National legislation,” Obama said at the time, “will prevent other states’ flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents.”

Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

A law such as this will be just another one where the FEDS completely overstepped their authority. It will be time to move to Texas and join the border watch, Mississipi, New Mexico, Oklahoma.... and Mexico. Nobody will be crossing into the newest independent nation.

[A_Former_Democrat]

I had a conversation Friday with a liberal pal who (humorously) said he’s joined our ranks. He’s bought a Glock and secured a CCW permit

And yeah, he too mentioned the difficulty in finding ammunition.

(BTW he’s one of the last guys I’d expect to have done this)

[Sawdring]

When I was a kid and we all played Cowboys and People-of-Color (Red), my little brother and I always wanted to be a People-of-Color (Red). They could cheat, fight better, and steal horses (bikes). And they got to play with matches to make smoke signals.

When we were kids, we wanted to be cowboys. We got to give the "people of color" blankets with Chicken Pox in them and whenever we signed a treaty we could cheat by disregarding it.