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To: liberty or death
We have the much better argument

Okay, how do you express the idea of causality in comic-book format and flashy grafx?

How do you draw a comic strip in the mode of Sin City that illuminates the fallacy (and consequences) of an illicit minor, or which outs somebody for appealing, in gross terms, to motive in lieu of argument?

Or do you just default to competitive promises of ice cream for everyone? Because that is the level at which comic-strip thought is transacted.

8 posted on 04/19/2009 2:45:01 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well comic strips and flashy grafx are not my talent but giving up is not either.

I have 5 children from 15 to 22 and each is a consevative thinker because I’ve had the time to educate them. But when their friends are here the emptiness inside those noggins is frightening.


24 posted on 04/19/2009 8:37:53 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: lentulusgracchus

There is some one’s that argue against Iraq war that are amazingly made (not that I agree with the message). I love comics, especially cause I can’t listen to things for long either. But comics aren’t what are needed, most comics that are read come from Japan (or Asia, Korea, and some Americans; not often though) You want to reach new generations, Video is it. And not bad video, something that will go viral on it’s on for younger generations, even with political indications. Getting by the media filters, this is what this takes (like JibJab, political to both sides, they become famous during Bush/Kerry 2004 for their very well done flash video)

Then again there is the saying if something started on the internet (like Lol cats) it comes from 4chan :D.... (Please DO NOT GO THERE... There is a reason why it’s called the sewer of the internet)


25 posted on 04/19/2009 8:52:53 AM PDT by Toki
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To: lentulusgracchus; liberty or death

both are valid points: imho, we’re past the point of quick fix. both question and counter are true; we need to reach out to the youngsters and solving the McDonalds attention-span/instant gratification cycle is also a must.

we see the effects of 40 years of education stressing dumbed down existentialism on the populace. there’s no right or wrong in this world, there’s only Now. We are literally two different peoples, seeing one event through two very different views.

Allow me to illustrate: Peter Minuit buys Manhattan island from the Indians for 24 bucks in 1626. The Dutch (property law) believe they got it for a song and think the Indians are stupid; the Indians (stewards of land which no-one/”all” own equally) can’t believe the White Man is stupid enough to pay for something that every one uses.

My first point therefore; we need to understand that we are two different peoples and treat this problem accordingly.

How to go about it? I pin not a small amount of hope on time-tested wisdom; Churchill’s adage about liberals and conservatives (”... anyone not a liberal at age 20 has no heart; anyone not a conservative at age 40 has no mind...”) comes to mind.

Which tells me this will not be a short battle, nor an easy one. Continue presenting our ideas, both in “long form” - which develop the sense of argument and rhetoric that you, Lentulus, infer in your post - while discovering/developing bytes/bites/memes that pack more punch in 30 seconds. It’s an uphill battle because they are young - thus prone to the utopian seductions offered by the ‘one’; and an uphill battle because as this group gets older, not all of them will come to see the light (of conservative gradual improvement upon proven foundation stones).

In short, gentlemen, both approaches must be followed. This is not a single front war we’re fighting... and yes, it is a war. It is a war in academia, in our media, in the federal government and on the bench, in our schools, in our culture.

Gramschi understood it as such, as did Alinsky. We need to understand it, too... and fight on any and every front where conservative thought and American values can be and should be advanced.

God Bless...

J G


26 posted on 04/19/2009 9:04:16 AM PDT by Jacksonian Grouch (God has granted us Freedom; we owe Him our courage in return)
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To: lentulusgracchus

OK, that was just about as disjointed an argument as I’ve ever seen.

What are you talking about, and what are you trying to say?

Please keep one thought per sentence, and one concept per paragraph.

There is a limit of 20 (ish) words on sentence length, but a paragraph should comprise no less than 4 sentences, and paragraph length, when dedicated to a SINGULAR point, is open.

If you are trying to impress anyone with your erudite, complex, and wholly brilliant argument, you have failed completely, since you did not manage to submit even one premise in your waste of electrons called a post. Nor did you manage to inform the reader your subject, tense, predicate, or action.

In plain English, you wasted a lot of time saying NOTHING!


30 posted on 04/19/2009 9:30:13 PM PDT by Don W (People who think are a threat to socialism)
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