To: Star Traveler
Baloney. I've known plenty of military men. They are usually better behaved than many of the civilians I've known.
29 posted on
04/18/2009 8:34:33 AM PDT by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: trisham
So, you’ve known some good ones then. It only takes one bad one to change your mind, though... or to make you aware that there *are* those who will do that... (but perhaps you already know that and pick carefully who you associate with...)...
And, there’s nothing wrong with “self-selecting” the “right ones” to know... not at all...
To: trisham
You said — Baloney. I’ve known plenty of military men. They are usually better behaved than many of the civilians I’ve known.
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I take it that you’ve not met them all, and thus, you are going by a “self-selecting” segment, which most would choose in order to be “safe” with, being that they are recognize as such, by you and your observations. I have no doubt that this is true — exactly what you say — but not necessarily true for the entire group...
To: trisham; All
I have two daughters who both work in Navy Intel. They both deal with harassment regularly. The military (at least the Navy) is like a big Peyton Place or high school only heightened. The harassment is by men
and women. I believe it's worse for women however. Women of integrity are harassed by their male
and female shipmates. It seems it is pretty much impossible to attempt to be in the military and just do your job daily without being propositioned or having to deal with ugly untrue rumors about either being someone's latest conquest (with lurid made up details) or having to defend your heterosexuality or endure the rumor mill because you don't bed every male sailor who expresses an interest in you. I have strongly advised both my daughters to never be in a work space alone with a male shipmate if at all possible.
My daughters joined the Navy to serve their country and have come to appreciate and love it even more since enlisting. It's a sad fact that they have to deal with this crap to do their jobs and serve a country they love. They deal with it the best they can. It doesn't do any good to complain as you are held to a higher standard than your shipmates thereafter and are written up for infractions others skate on.
100 posted on
04/18/2009 11:11:19 AM PDT by
My hearts in London - Everett
(There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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