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To: ansel12

You said — What is clear is that you don’t know squat about the military. There is no more vetted group and no more restricted lifestyle than the military.

Sorry..., I’ve heard too many tales about it from relatives, immediate family, and also friends — so I know a lot different than what may be conventionally told...

Now..., here I’m talking about *direct* from very close relatives, in that in the military, there were guys (military guys) selling military weapons from facilities where they were kept. Now, mind you..., I’m not the one who was in the military, but talking to close relatives who *were* in the military and they know what has gone on there.

A lot of weapons were sold “out the back door” so to speak, by military people...

In fact, I was *assured* absolutely, that if I had the money, I could get almost any weaponry that I wanted. And although they (i.e., those relatives) did not do it, they “knew” who did and where to go and what contacts to make.

Then there were the accounts of what happened while in the military. Again, I’m not the person who was there, and only listening to and taking in from the people who were there and getting “confirmation” from two or three of them talking about it, from different places.

There’s also the drug trade in the military and using military transport to get drugs around. That’s another story, and apparently there’s money to be made there.

In terms of the “drug trade” that’s a consistent theme, over and over again, I hear from many military people. That is extensive.

I’ll guarantee you that these stories don’t get into the daily papers..., that’s for sure... LOL... but I know what goes on there...


115 posted on 04/18/2009 3:00:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
Sorry..., I’ve heard too many tales about it from relatives, immediate family, and also friends — so I know a lot different than what may be conventionally told...

Like I said you don't know squat about the military, we military and veteran people do.

117 posted on 04/18/2009 3:08:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Star Traveler

Star Traveler, I am the mother of a retired Army son. I know how hard he worked to bring distinction and achievement to the troops serving under him, and how hard he worked to set the highest of standards.

The young 2nd Lts. hope to get a platoon that has a few problems, and shape them up, so they get good reviews and evaluations, and their promotions. And it goes up the chain of command this way.

Not that there aren’t exceptions, for certainly these do exist. But, compared to life in many of our college campuses, suburbs and inner cities for the same age population, the military does an excellent job of instilling discipline, dealing with abuse, and keeping track of those weapons you mention. I have heard stories of tracking down the last missing piece of whatever, for fear of being called out for having anything missing.

I agree, you do not know much about the military today, and how much better off our young men and women are in that environment than those mentioned above.

That said, I am not happy about women being in combat zones. But, I do think they have certain skill sets and talents that our military can truly benefit from using. They should be behind the front lines, and in support positions. We should make the rules to suit the average, not the exceptional.


197 posted on 04/18/2009 6:43:59 PM PDT by jacquej
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