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Polling evolution in Louisiana (NCSE goes ballistic over Louisiana's rejection of Evo-religion)
NCSE ^ | April 14, 2009

Posted on 04/17/2009 9:54:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: allmendream
If 40% of those polled in Louisiana think that evolution is not well accepted within the scientific community; pointing out that it IS well accepted within the scientific community is neither an appeal to authority or an argument from popularity; it is an attempt to disabuse the ignorant of their mistaken notion.

True. Except that's not what your post said.

Ignorant is also not an ad homonym [sic], it is an accurate assessment of their state of knowledge about the subject. I am, for example, completely ignorant of most sport teams; and would not take umbrage at someone saying “Allmendream is completely ignorant when it comes to sports.”.

True enough, but your post in its entirety basically amounted to "Smart people accept evolution, and stupid or ignorant people still doubt it." So perhaps not an ad hominem exactly, but definitely a mix of appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, and perhaps appeal to flattery.

21 posted on 04/17/2009 11:04:57 AM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: ontap

What doubts?


22 posted on 04/17/2009 11:05:59 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!


23 posted on 04/17/2009 11:09:56 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

“fast evolution”
Evolution can always use a little help. You know, Africa was where men first shinnied down trees and started voting for Democrats?

An elderly couple was watching a Discovery Channel special about a West African bush tribe whose men all had penises 24 inches long. When the black male reaches a certain age, a string is tied around his penis and on the other end is a weight. After a while, the weight stretches the penis to 24inches.

Later that evening as the husband was getting out of the shower, his wife looked at him and said, “How about we try the African string-and-weight procedure?” The husband agreed and they tied a string and a weight to his penis.

A few days later, the wife asked the husband, “How is our little tribal experiment coming along?”

“Well, it looks like we’re about half way there,” he replied.

“Wow, you mean it’s grown to 12 inches?”

“No, it’s turned black.”


24 posted on 04/17/2009 11:10:04 AM PDT by tumblindice (skating away, on the thin ice of a new day)
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To: DevNet

I would guess the doubts of the individuals who have been fired for expressing them.


25 posted on 04/17/2009 11:20:14 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: xjcsa
It is a simple fact that casts light onto the mistaken meme that evolution is not well accepted in the scientific community. Not only IS it well accepted in the scientific community, it is also well accepted among the EDUCATED community.

The better educated someone is, especially about science, the more likely they are to accept the theory of evolution.

The less educated someone is, especially about science, the more likely they are to reject the theory of evolution.

Those are the facts, and not being able to argue against them, you wish to accuse me of a engaging in logical fallacies while pointing out the ignorance of the idea that evolution is not well accepted in the scientific community when the majority of anybody with a degree or graduate degree in science accepts the theory.

26 posted on 04/17/2009 11:25:37 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: ontap

I guess you don’t have any of these peoples names?


27 posted on 04/17/2009 11:29:14 AM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: allmendream
Yeah, bunch of rubes! Probably don't believe in the scientifically proven fact of man made global warming, the harmless normality of homosexuality, all the good stuff.

No wonder their economy is falling apart when 40% of the population won't worship in The Temple of Darwinism! Rubes!

28 posted on 04/17/2009 11:31:07 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: stormer

Then stop teaching Darwood’s fanciful creation myth, and start teaching intelligent design!


29 posted on 04/17/2009 11:41:35 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream
Not only IS it well accepted in the scientific community, it is also well accepted among the EDUCATED community.

Who am I to argue with capital letters?

The better educated someone is, especially about science, the more likely they are to accept the theory of evolution.

The less educated someone is, especially about science, the more likely they are to reject the theory of evolution.

OK, I'll stipulate that for now. So what?

30 posted on 04/17/2009 11:42:33 AM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: allmendream
The more educated someone is the more likely they are to accept the theory of evolution through natural selection.

If only they could defend such a notion with evidence and appeals to natural law. Instead defenders of evolution are left making appeals to authority and acting pretentious. If you want to SEEM smart, tell people you believe in evolution. If you want to BE smart, study the evidence and the reasoning pro and con yourself and come to your own conclusions.

Evolution by natural selection has gone the way of the dodo bird. Trying to hang on to it is not going to do science any favors.

31 posted on 04/17/2009 11:44:08 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Creationists do not believe in “fast evolution.” We believe that the capacity to adapt rapidly to changing environmental conditions (within the confines of each created kind) was frontloaded at the time of creation.


32 posted on 04/17/2009 12:04:30 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
There needs to be a catchier name for “fast evolution.”

"Zoomolution" might work. Covers the Zoo on the Ark and the Zoom thereafter.

33 posted on 04/17/2009 12:11:28 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: xjcsa
"What effect do increasing levels of education have on the likelihood a person will resort to logical fallacies like, I don't know, argumentum ad populum, appeals to authority, ad hominem, and others? I only ask because your post consists entirely of these."

Ah, a man after my own heart... :-)

34 posted on 04/17/2009 12:37:29 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: DevNet

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/05/iowa_state_professor_who_was_d.html

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-135392804.html

http://www.arn.org/docs/dembski/wd_upicommentary1200.htm


35 posted on 04/17/2009 12:50:06 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: allmendream

When it comes to evolutionism and other secular humanist ideologies it also means that schools have become cultural indoctrination centers and that ‘the educated’ merely regurgitate what was told to them and they never critiqued or analyzed what they were being fed.


36 posted on 04/17/2009 1:54:14 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: valkyry1
Yes, people receive graduate degrees in science without ever critiquing or analyzing what they were being fed, and they get their degrees, NOT from doing original research, but by mere regurgitation./s
37 posted on 04/17/2009 1:56:07 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Liberty1970
There are thousands of peer reviewed journals where the evidence is accumulated.

My comments were in regards to the ignorance of 40% of Louisianans who think that evolution is not well accepted in the scientific community.

Pointing out that it IS well accepted in the scientific community, as well as the educated community, is not in any way a mere appeal to authority.

In other words I am not saying you should believe in evolution because it is well accepted in the scientific community. I AM saying that you should believe that evolution is well accepted in the scientific community because it IS well accepted in the scientific community.

Can you follow THAT logic?

38 posted on 04/17/2009 2:02:42 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Of the respondents, only 38.8% preferred the correct option, with 40.3% thinking that evolution is not well supported and 20.9% listed as saying they don't know.

The government can't even do brainwashing right... Thank God!

39 posted on 04/17/2009 2:04:37 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: allmendream
One may well reject the science of evolution for religious reasons, but to claim that the theory of evolution is not well accepted within the scientific community is to deny reality.

It's kind of a trick question because although the theory has wide acceptance within "the scientific community," it isn't supported by a shred of evidence.

40 posted on 04/17/2009 2:06:12 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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