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To: Vaquero
Treaties need be approved only by the Senate. I have been predicting since before this election that Obama would use the treaty making power of the United States to impose legislation and even circumvent the Bill of Rights without the bother of submitting to securing the consents of the House and the Senate.

Even worse, the president can enter into executive agreements with foreign entities which do have the force of law under some circumstances. The question is whether the court will permit our Constitution to be amended by the President and the Senate without reference to the amendment process. The case law in this area is not clear and as I understand it there is no case which permits individual constitutional rights to be abridged by a treaty. I for one, however, am not comfortable leaving the fate of my right to bear arms, for example, to the hopscotch unreliability of Justice Kennedy who will decide the issue.

When the media belittles yesterdays protesters as "tea baggers" who have misconstrued the meaning of the Boston tea party because today's protesters already have " representation" one might ask, how much representation do the tea party protesters really have if Obama succeeds in circumventing the Constitution with the artifice of the treaty making power?


23 posted on 04/16/2009 6:29:28 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

then the constitutionally honest states must secede, in order to preserve the constitution.


25 posted on 04/16/2009 6:34:29 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: nathanbedford

He does not have the authority to go around the constitution.

If he tries by treaty and the Senate goes along, it WILL be the 2nd Shot Heard Round the World.

1/2 of the “states” in the nation will lock & load.


35 posted on 04/16/2009 6:52:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: nathanbedford

We need to petition the Senate like never before on this issue. This “treaty” MUST NOT be ratified. The way it reads, it gives the UN authority to regulate firearms and ammunition in OUR country.


45 posted on 04/16/2009 7:06:04 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: nathanbedford

Can a treaty travel through the court system?


46 posted on 04/16/2009 7:06:56 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Americans Bow to No One; Obama Bows to Saudi KINGS and Lies about it.)
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