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Texas: City Councilman Arrested for Opposing Red Light Cameras
The Newspaper ^ | 04/12/2009 | Unattributed

Posted on 04/15/2009 2:33:07 PM PDT by Glenn

Duncanville, Texas mayor silences anti-camera councilman by having him arrested.

The mayor of Duncanville, Texas had a member of the city council arrested last Tuesday for speaking out against the use of red light cameras during an official meeting. The incident took place during the discussion of whether the city should spend $59,000 to make street repairs. Mayor David Green recognized Councilman Paul Ford to speak on the contract item.

"Thank you," Ford said. "I want to let you know that earlier this evening during briefing, Mayor Green threatened me that if he told me to stop talking and I didn't, he'd have me arrested, and I want to let you know what I told Mayor Green."

Green became outraged and shouted, "Mr Ford, you are out of order. You are not recognized Mr Ford. You need to cease right now."

While Green yelled, Ford continued his brief statement without stopping.

"Unlike those thousands of people who are getting red light camera tickets, I will have the opportunity for a jury trial. It will be a jury of my peers and I will confidently put my fate in their hands. And now I'm going to discuss agenda item number three. I will vote against it, and here's why."

Before he had a chance to explain that the city could find the money for those necessary street repairs by cutting the city manager's salary from $179,000 to $160,000 and reducing payments to local chambers of commerce by $40,000, Police Chief Robert Brown grabbed Ford. Ford repeated several times the statement: "Chief Brown, I will not leave voluntarily, but if you believe I am violating the law by discussing this agenda item, I will submit to arrest."

Brown did not respond. Mayor Green had the audio of the city council video tape turned off as Brown dragged the councilman out of the chamber. Ford ended up hospitalized from injuries sustained during the arrest.

Ford's comments referenced an earlier, private briefing of city council members where the mayor complained that Ford had attempted to "take control" of past meetings. To stop this, Green announced that he would instruct the city manager to remove any council member who disrupted a meeting. Over the past few council sessions, Ford raised the mayor's ire by insisting that the city code be amended to allow motorists the option of a jury trial when contesting red light camera citations and by his pointing out that only five percent of the 43,955 red light camera tickets issued in the city went to motorists accused of the straight-through violations most consider to be "red light running."

"I'm not the one who brought the red light camera scandal to Duncanville," Ford responded at the private meeting. "I'm the one who brought it to light, but I'm not the one who imposed it on us... I recognize that there probably is no city employee in this room who will stand up to you guys... Unlike those people who are getting red light camera citations, I will have an opportunity for a jury trial when you arrest me for whatever it is that you've discussed, whether it's disrupting a public meeting or disorderly conduct. I will have a jury trial, and it will be a jury of my peers, not yours. In other words, people who are not getting money from this city. And I will with conscience place my fate in their hands."

Mayor Green's expulsion of an elected member of the city council violated standard rules of procedure. Under Robert's Rules of Order, the binding code of conduct for most municipal organizations, Green would not have any authority to have Ford removed for making off-topic comments that lasted less than thirty seconds. The use of force to remove a member is considered an extreme measure and a last resort.

"Although the chair has no authority to impose a penalty or to order an offending member removed from the hall, the assembly has that power," the Rules state.

Under this set of procedures, a mayor would first have issued a warning to an unruly member and, if ignored, put the question of what to do about it to the entire city council. A majority vote would be required to have a sitting member removed from the chambers after that member is given an opportunity to speak in his own defense. Under Duncanville's city charter (2.15), only the full council can change the rules of procedure, not the mayor acting alone.

Ford has been released from the hospital but the mayor had a warrant issued for his arrest. Ford announced yesterday his intention to turn himself in. Since March, Ford has attempted to gather 1300 signatures to create a referendum on the red light camera program in Duncanville.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; duncanville; redlightcamera; redlightcameras; texas
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To: Sir Gawain

Well, if they can get a federal prosecutor to take an interest in this case, it might lead to jail time for violation of civil rights - here arrest without cause - under color of law. Because the thug police chief was surely armed, the resulting jail term for him and the mayor could be VERY long.

But that’s not likely to happen. Prob nothing more that a lost reelection will result.


21 posted on 04/15/2009 3:22:40 PM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Now, Mr. Ford has the perfect revenge.

Get a digital photo of the mayor’s license plate.

Print it out full size and tape it to the plate on the back of his car.

Go around town running every red light you see.


22 posted on 04/15/2009 3:24:49 PM PDT by plangent
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To: Glenn; ExTexasRedhead

Are you kidding?


23 posted on 04/15/2009 3:24:55 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: plangent

Would that work? Wouldn’t the vehicle type and color have to be the same as that of the mayor?


24 posted on 04/15/2009 3:55:58 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Palin - integrity - 2012.)
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To: Glenn

This is where the elected sheriff of the county should investigate both the mayor and police chief for violations of the councilman’s civil rights. If he believes civil rights were violated, he should send in his deputies to arrest them.

This is why I don’t like police. They’re nothing more than bureaucrats with badges accountable to their political masters, while elected sheriffs are acountable to the people via the ballot box.

It’s very easy for police to become thugs for dictators.

An elected sheriff is the superior type of peace officer for a free people.


25 posted on 04/15/2009 4:40:40 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: John Galt's cousin

The mayor might object. Ha Ha! but the photo analysis doesn’t factor in model and color...jest those old licence plate nums.


26 posted on 04/15/2009 4:52:19 PM PDT by plangent
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To: LaineyDee
It’s called a “good ole boys club”.

You can say that again. I don't live far from Duncanville, but the towns around here are full of them, be they liberal or conservative. I'm not sure if this is better or worse than California from whence I came. Half of my town seems to have escaped from somewhere in California, but hint at the possibility that some things here may need a little change and hear the screams!

On the bright side, at least I could understand the writer's sentences, which is more than I can say about my small town paper.

27 posted on 04/15/2009 5:13:30 PM PDT by Gummi Bear
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To: Gummi Bear
I don't live far from Duncanville, but the towns around here are full of them, be they liberal or conservative.

Yep. Where bullies go to build their egos....and corruption abounds.

Speaking of small town newspapers.... for a long time...I thought ours was an excerpt from the DMN funnies. Every Obit was finished with "and he/she was a Baptist". (or whatever)

There was a gossip column from each little community which made me howl. "Lila Mae made soup for her fifth cousin's ex-husband's daughter-in-law this weekend. She was very ill and had driven all the way from Oklahoma City to visit." "Don't forget the fish-fry on Friday." "We're raising money for new hoses on the Volunteer Fire Trucks." *chuckle* Gotta luv it.

28 posted on 04/15/2009 5:50:30 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Glenn; All
Here is some info re Texas law about resisting arrest:

The Right to Self Defense

29 posted on 04/15/2009 6:08:21 PM PDT by SloopJohnB (It it wasn't for Double Standards, the Left would have No Standards.)
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To: Cicero

I spent the second ten years of my life in Duncanville and graduated from high school there.

It is a real pit, full of wannabees of all stripes. As a signal of how much people want to get away from D’Ville, as the natives fondly call it, my high school class of over 600 elected NOT to have a twenty-year reunion. It was a last kiss-off to our sycophantic and petty class officers who never learned to grow up, get a real job, and move on. They never saw it coming and upbraided the vast majority of class members who “didn’t have any school spirit.” Man, it was sweet!

This year is my thirtieth reunion year. I haven’t heard a thing about it, AND HOPE I DON’T.

Rest in hell, Duncanville.


30 posted on 04/16/2009 2:55:39 PM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon

Thanks. I spent much of my childhood in a wealthy suburb that was a bit that way. Not as bad as D’Ville, evidently. But you confirm the impression I got of it from that Wiki article.


31 posted on 04/16/2009 2:58:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I’m sorry to hear of your experience, Cicero. I had always thought Rome to be a happ’nin’ place! ;)

Best wishes.


32 posted on 04/17/2009 5:52:59 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon
I had always thought Rome to be a happ’nin’ place! ;)

The banquets were starting to get a bit excessive in my day.

33 posted on 04/17/2009 8:19:03 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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