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Global Warming Is 'Very Real for Us,' Palin Says
Associated Press ^ | April 14, 2009 | Kim Murphy

Posted on 04/14/2009 8:33:13 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(AP) — ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin acknowledged Tuesday that global warming was harming her state but said stepped-up natural-gas production could mitigate its effects.

Speaking at a hearing before Interior Secretary Ken Salazar -- the third of several he is holding to consider renewed oil and gas leasing on the Outer Continental Shelf -- Palin said that relatively clean-burning natural gas could supplant dirtier fuels and slow the discharge of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

"We Alaskans are living with the changes that you are observing in Washington," she said. "The dramatic decreases in the extent of summer sea ice, increased coastal erosion, melting of permafrost, decrease in alpine glaciers and overall ecosystem changes are very real to us."

(Excerpt) Read more at silive.com ...


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To: Mojave
Same thing.

Their plan won't work even under the most credible models...wherever they eminate from.

I think you're one of those people who just want to see whatever you want...and swallow every trick of the media.

201 posted on 04/14/2009 11:26:00 PM PDT by what's up
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To: eyedigress

Yep. Words have meaning.


202 posted on 04/14/2009 11:26:27 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: goodnesswins
The Glacier has been receding for years.....so what!

But, they are growing in other parts of the world and global sea ice is back to 1979 levels, levels seen at the height of the global cooling scam of the 1970s.

203 posted on 04/14/2009 11:27:03 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Mojave

Here is the statement in full there Einstein. “MANY BELIEVE that in order to mitigate these long term and systemic changes it will require a national and global effort to decrease the release of human produced greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. However, simply waiting for low carbon emitting renewable capacity to be large enough will mean that it will be to late to meet the mitigation goals for reducing CO2 that will be required under the most credible climate change models,including the International Panel on Climate Change model scenarios.”


204 posted on 04/14/2009 11:27:32 PM PDT by Steel Bill
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Um, Sarah:

Sea Ice Ends the Year At Same Level It Was In 1979

Daily Tech ^ | 1/1/2009 | Michael Asher

Rapid growth spurt leaves amount of ice at levels seen 29 years ago.

+ Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close.

Ice levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.

The data is being reported by the University of Illinois's Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions.

Each year, millions of square kilometers of sea ice melt and refreeze. However, the mean ice anomaly -- defined as the seasonally-adjusted difference between the current value and the average from 1979-2000, varies much more slowly. That anomaly now stands at just under zero, a value identical to one recorded at the end of 1979, the year satellite record-keeping began.

205 posted on 04/14/2009 11:29:17 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Steel Bill
This has nothing to do with whether I like Sarah Palin or not. Her statements were taken out of context to create the impression that she believes in man made global warming.

I didn't get that and don't think anyone that can read would get that but they might get that she actually buys the global warming premise - ie that it exists. That's all I'm saying, and if you read what I've said, that's _all_ I'm saying.

And I don't agree with your assessment that there was a 'global warming' unless you only mean it in the sense that it is normally warmer during the day than at night. The form of data collection has been cooked as well as the computer models. There is no actual evidence of it and even using their data the planet has been 'cooling' since 1998. But even that is bogus because of their data collection. It is a non-issue and anyone that even suggests that it is an issue or esp. that anyone needs to do anything whatsoever about it is not using their mind.

Your statement”I do understand that particular battle but what she said, if quoted correctly... This statement tells me that you did not even bother to go and read her prepared remarks before you responded to my previous post.

See my more recent post where I quote exactly what the AP reported as in the article, but from the gov's PAC's pdf. IOW, while the AP didn't have the full text they did point out that the Gov. did acknowledge global warming's existence - exactly what I commented about.

206 posted on 04/14/2009 11:29:20 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: Steel Bill
“MANY BELIEVE that in order to mitigate these long term and systemic changes it will require a national and global effort to decrease the release of human produced greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. However, simply waiting for low carbon emitting renewable capacity to be large enough will mean that it will be to late to meet the mitigation goals for reducing CO2 that will be required under the most credible climate change models,including the International Panel on Climate Change model scenarios.”

Thanks for the addendum. So Palin also holds the International Panel on Climate Change model scenarios to be credible. It gets worse and worse.

207 posted on 04/14/2009 11:30:42 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Sea Ice Ends the Year At Same Level It Was In 1979

But that's clearly not credible. It doesn't fit the agenda.

208 posted on 04/14/2009 11:32:27 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

keep in mind... global warming is NOT the same as man-made global warming

one is weather, the other is liberal hype


209 posted on 04/14/2009 11:33:08 PM PDT by sten
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To: Mojave
I recall the CIC giving a plagiarized speech on words in the campaign. Then they try to figure why normal citizens are stocking up. As Charlie Brown would say..(Good Grief).
210 posted on 04/14/2009 11:34:21 PM PDT by eyedigress ( Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place.)
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To: eyedigress
No more ..... Couric: Do you read magazines in AK?

Look. Pointing out that the MSM did a hatchet job on her is irrelevant to this particular point. If you want to continue these irrelevancies (even though I fully agree with the points), then we're done.

211 posted on 04/14/2009 11:34:49 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: SoCalPol; Arizona Carolyn; Mojave
do a google search and you will see a long list of sites where she states she does not believe in global warming

Like this?

Couric: John McCain proposed legislation calling for mandatory caps on global warming gases or CO2 emissions. Do you agree with that?

Palin: I support his position on that. Absolutely.

Couric: But he somewhat backtracked on the campaign trail saying it wouldn't, they wouldn't, the caps wouldn't be mandatory, they'd be voluntary. So what do you think? Do you think voluntary caps go far enough? Or they should be mandatory?

Palin: He's got a good cap and trade policy that he supports. And details are being hashed out even right now. But, in principle, absolutely, I support all that we can do to reduce emissions and to clean up this planet. And john McCain is right on board with that.

Couric: Voluntary or mandatory in your view?

Palin: We're gonna keep working on how it can be implemented to actually make sense and make a difference.

Source: Transcript: Palin And McCain Interview More In-Depth Answers To Questions Katie Couric Asked McCain And Palin On The Broadcast, Sept. 30, 2008
212 posted on 04/14/2009 11:39:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! (anyone want to join the movement? Chg your tagline!))
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To: Mojave

The paragraph starts with Many believe which,unless she changes it to I believe somewhere in the statement is who the following statements are directed at. Guess your game of gotcha got you.


213 posted on 04/14/2009 11:40:20 PM PDT by Steel Bill
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To: sten

Most don’t realize we have been in an ice age and might be coming out of it. Of course this lack of sunspot activity may be going another direction. Libs don’t see any of this and will try to get control of us any way they can.


214 posted on 04/14/2009 11:40:31 PM PDT by eyedigress ( Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place.)
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To: Steel Bill
The paragraph starts with Many believe

Beliefs that she then asserts are based on the "most credible climate change models..."

Guess your game of gotcha got you.

Nope. Your dishonest spin fell short.

215 posted on 04/14/2009 11:44:18 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: calcowgirl
Palin: I support his position on that. Absolutely.

She's looking more and more like a female Arnold.

216 posted on 04/14/2009 11:46:55 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Kent C

Thanks for posting the full text of her statement.


217 posted on 04/14/2009 11:48:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! (anyone want to join the movement? Chg your tagline!))
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To: calcowgirl

Yeah, I am going to go by the Couric interview where the handlers were as bad as Couric and one of many reasons Gov. Palin is writing a book.

There is a long list of speeches, writings, etc. where she states against global warming.


218 posted on 04/14/2009 11:49:06 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Mojave; what's up

Quote on “credible climate change models”:

“...it will be too late to meet the mitigation goals for reducing CO2 that will be required under most credible climate change models, including the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) modeled scenarios.”


219 posted on 04/14/2009 11:52:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! (anyone want to join the movement? Chg your tagline!))
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To: eyedigress
the complete lack of sunspots has me a bit nervous. even the maunder minimum which lasted about 50 years had some activity.

read this for more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

of note:
"The Maunder Minimum coincided with the middle — and coldest part — of the Little Ice Age, during which Europe and North America, and perhaps much of the rest of the world, were subjected to bitterly cold winters. Whether there is a causal connection between low sunspot activity and cold winters is the subject of ongoing debate (e.g., see Global Warming)."


220 posted on 04/14/2009 11:55:03 PM PDT by sten
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