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To: ohioWfan

Every school kid I know recognizes ‘dumb as a box of rocks’, ‘covens and broomsticks’, ‘how bright could he be?’ and other such insults and knows they are... insults. Sometimes there’s a snotty little brat, usually a girl, who tries to claim that “no, those aren’t insults, those are LIES!”. That kid is the one who ends up being all alone on the playground.

The truth is that you have an undisciplined temper and when you get angry you think calling someone a liar is a useful tool. Which it is, as long as you think lying is okay, as a tactic anyway. Now I don’t have a problem with you doing that, so I haven’t been whining about it. I just figure it’s part of your character, just as valid as the piety act. Maybe more so.

So, while you offer a sort-of apology in one of your posts, it’s not exactly a real apology because it repeats the accusation that I’ve been posting lies about you. Now that’s not nice, not if you can’t actually point to a lie. So, out of consideration for your spiritual health I think it’s incumbent to wait for you to produce an actual example of a lie, rather than a list of the insults I employed. Although I did enjoy the list, as I got to chuckle once again at my creative use of insults. They were pretty funny. Well, I suppose you don’t find them funny, but I’ll bet someone else would. Okay, so now it’s your turn to call me a ‘metrosexual’ and a ‘Bush-hater’ and stuff. Oh yeah, and don’t forget ‘liar’.


82 posted on 04/22/2009 8:28:50 PM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: Pelham
Pelham. The things you said were not just insults. They were lies. And reading them on a public forum hurts - even if all you think of me is that I am a bratty little girl.

I am apologizing to you, and it is genuine, for the nasty things I said to you. It's real. I'm sorry.

But please don't repeat lies like you have done here - that I worship President Bush - he is my brother in Christ. That I moved in some sort of group with Howlin, or that I left here because of her (absolutely, factually untrue). That I am stupid. Whatever else.

I understand that because you think I'm dumb, you think you can say whatever you like and not take responsibility for it, but I can't do that with you. I don't believe in situation ethics that excuse my bad behavior by blaming it on you. I'm taking full responsibility for my fault in this dopey exchange between us.

I know for a fact that you stated deliberately false information here about me, and you admitted to doing it for fun. You may say that I'm whining (that's the standard deflection of your culpability, isn't it?)- and perhaps I am, but I don't like being lied about, and it hasn't happened since I left here two years ago.

Now if we could start over, I would like to see if you are capable of a civil discussion with someone like me, who respects the integrity, courage, and character of George W. Bush. If we could go back and I would re-word my initial response to your undocumented insult of President Bush and we could discuss the issue and avoid the personal attacks, would you do it?

Are you willing to have an adult discussion with me? I am with you.

83 posted on 04/23/2009 8:16:49 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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