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To: sickoflibs; WOSG; calcowgirl; KDD; dools007; djsherin; ken21; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Tarpon; ..
No, GWB and lackeys Levin+Hannity taught the public that government was free.

Two logical errors: 1) Conflating President Bush with talk radio show hosts, who express opinions but did not enact the bush policies. Those talk radio show hosts DISAGREED with Bush on MULTIPLE issues, I named several of them. I mentioned Rush - HE OPPOSED BUSH ON TARIFFS IN 2003. HE OPPOSED BUSH WHEN BUSH SIGNED THE BIG-SPENDING PORK FARM BILL (THE DASCHLE BILL) IN 2002. In fact, Rush criticized President on certain things throughout his administration. Your attempt to tie talk radio show hosts to Bush's compromises on spending with Kennedy and Daschle is - bizarre and simply counterfactual.

2) Argument by strawman. It is a complete and utter strawman to claim anyone said 'government was free'. Not bush. Not levin. not anyone. I call BS. Show me the quotes.

And so it is with the whole post. You conflate talk show hosts with WH policy (two different things); you confuse the good tax cuts of 2003 with the flawed spending increases, and you cast the entire conservative movement as somehow complicit in bush's triangulation and compromises. It's a pantload - and we know because WE WERE THERE fighting the good fight AGAINST those compromises. Freepers opposed Medicare Part D WHEN IT HAPPENED. So did almost 2 dozen GOP Representatives. So did talk radio hosts oppose big spending bills.

Take out all your strawmen argumentation and you are simply left with the assertion that Bush was a bigger spender than he should have been ... gee, tell us something new for a change!

You are free to support your phony strawman claims against Levin hannity etc. with names, cites and quotes, its not like they dont have columns and tanscripts. but I am sure you cant because in the end they did have conservative POV and agree or disagree, they have a solid perspective. My own googling shows that RUSH LIMBAUGH OPPOSED MEDICARE PART D WHEN IT WENT DOWN. So did "Club for Growth" and other conservative groups BTW.

And BTW, you do have a very UN-conservative view on tax rate reduction: It reduces the price of Government. Blaming tax cuts for deficits is singing from the Democrat party playbook. ... I repeat: It's a false notion that tax-cutters are responsible or like higher spending /deficits. You can even check the votes - a distinctly DIFFERENT GROUP are voting and did vote for higher spending than for tax reductions. You can verify this by comparing NTU ratings and CAGW (Citizens Against Govt waste). They correlate. Fiscal conservatives like Coburn, DeMint, Rep Flake, Rep Shadegg, Rep Pence voted NO on medicare part D, but have been for lower tax rates. That is consistent fiscal conservatism.

75 posted on 04/13/2009 10:10:53 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG
“And BTW, you do have a very UN-conservative view on tax rate reduction: It reduces the price of Government. Blaming tax cuts for deficits is singing from the Democrat party playbook. ... I repeat: It's a false notion that tax-cutters are responsible or like higher spending /deficits. You can even check the votes - a distinctly DIFFERENT GROUP are voting and did vote for higher spending than for tax reductions. You can verify this by comparing NTU ratings and CAGW (Citizens Against Govt waste). They correlate. Fiscal conservatives like Coburn, DeMint, Rep Flake, Rep Shadegg, Rep Pence voted NO on medicare part D, but have been for lower tax rates. That is consistent fiscal conservatism.”

Here is the problem TOO much verbiage;we have people with the attention span of Gnats and then wonder why they do understand anything said about tax cuts VS Government Spending the concepts have to be made simple to digest and widely understood which they are NOT as exemplified 11/4

95 posted on 04/14/2009 8:45:19 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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