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To: WOSG; calcowgirl; djsherin; rabscuttle385
RE :”I don’t know of any self-respecting conservative who said that which you put in quotes. None.

You kidding. It started as the myth in Rush's first book about Reagan(and I like Rush unlike Hannity and Levin, have 24/7 now) and the bots repeat it all the time to defend GWB disaster.The robot's belief's:

1) Cutting taxes while increasing spending IS economic growth(ie debt is growth, GWB 2002-2006 debt was REAL economic growth) ,

and

2) You can never raise taxes to pay for increased spending because that would cut tax revenue instead of increase it, So you always cut taxes, and increase spending ,increase debt, to get rich in increase revenues.

It's the canned Talk radio talking points, and all the robots repeat it. It's the religous belief of the 5-10% believers

44 posted on 04/13/2009 2:03:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: sickoflibs

You claim conservative ‘bots’ are saying: “Cutting taxes while increasing spending IS economic growth”

oh PULEEZE. There is a night and day difference between cutting taxes and increasing spending. The difference between Tom Coburn on the right and Barack Obama on the left.

Conservative view: Cutting taxes reduces price of Govt and helps increase economic growth. specifically tax RATES on production/income/earnings/investment. Proven in history, by basic ECON 101 understanding of how economic incentives work, etc.

But you falsely conflate spending in there ... huh?!? Where in Rush’s long career did he EVER say increasing Govt spending leads to economic growth??? Where? Never! You are descending into ad hominem nonsense by confusing categories!

“2) You can never raise taxes to pay for increased spending because that would cut tax revenue instead of increase it”
Another strawman. “NEVER” - show me the quote.

The statement is true:
“Often raising taxes to pay for increased spending is counterproductive because it makes business flee and weakens the economy.” True enough that New York, Cali and Michigan are all poster-child examples of that error. Likely the USA under Obama will be too, as high tax increases will boomerang to hurt the economy. The contrary view is to be like Bob Dole and support tax hikes for the programs the Dems pass; as Newt called it “the tax-collector for the welfare state.” True conservatives see through all that bunk and know that spending and taxes both need to be reduced.

If someone did come out and say “Tax increases never work” - they are closer to truth than the economic bunk that most politicians spout (eg Summers saying he is relying on “Keynesian” economics?!?!).

If you want to have that debate about whether Republicans are to be the taxcutters for the welfare state, FINE, but the impression here that ‘bots’ welcomed higher spending to spur the economy?!? BS. It’s in line with the false ‘fiscal irresponsibility’ meme - that RINOs and liberals love to spread - the false notion that tax-cutters are responsible or like higher spending /deficits. That’s completely false. Reality is that the fiscal conservatives who pushed for lower taxes are ALSO the ones who consistently stood up for ending earmarks cutting spending and opposing welfare and entitlement expansions. The deficits are wholly the result of excessive Govt spending.

Conversely, the big spending types were and are ALWAYS opponents of real tax reduction and tax reform.

Last, there were some “big-Govt conservative” koolaid drinkers. big Govt conservative is an oxymoron. Those folks are now discredited as are the RINO politicians who towed that line. No single conservative talk radio show host was among that small inside-the-beltway clique AFAIK.

Again, make your case with direct quotes and name names. YOu are certainly wrong to put Rush in that category. As it is, you are make claims at variance with the known records of these folks.


54 posted on 04/13/2009 3:42:18 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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