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To: neverdem; calcowgirl; djsherin; rabscuttle385
RE :”He's doing what he has to do. Rats are sick of being criticized for being weak in foreign affairs.

Seemed obvious to me even 'Nov 1,2008. But the hysteria 'Nov 1' here at FR and on Talk radio predicted the opposite "we would all die". I was pinged many times told “The terrorists would kill us all”. Levin and Hannity were working their listeners into a frenzy. But as you say, they had to protect us, all along. It was all just political spin (I was a Levin/Hannity-bot for a long time too, in Ron Paul recovery now.)

Hear that Paul followers, it was obvious that Obama had to protect us. Everything the "Vote McCain or Die" crowd told us was a lie. To be fair, Obama lied about some of it too, to win against Hillary and get move-on $$$$.

31 posted on 04/13/2009 10:37:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: sickoflibs
Seemed obvious to me even 'Nov 1,2008. But the hysteria 'Nov 1' here at FR and on Talk radio predicted the opposite "we would all die".

I challenged some of those folks as early as March 2008. It escalated into complete hysteria by November.

It was all just political spin ...

That's why I rarely listen to talk radio anymore.
Most "news" programs have become almost as bad in trying to spin one way or the other.

33 posted on 04/13/2009 11:29:43 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: sickoflibs

“Hear that Paul followers, it was obvious that Obama had to protect us. “

Oh yeah, that Obama strike to take out Iran’s nuclear ambitions, his shoot down of RPNK satellite was a given ...
“it was obvious” ...
oh wait, he didnt do that? He didnt say “no” when Europe said any third-worlder could run the IMF, World Bank? He sold us out on the Int’l Criminal COurt, so any grunt marine can has his ass in a sling from some socialist jurist in a foreign country that hates America? he actually released Gitmo Cole conspirators rather than hold them in Gitmo?

... don’t be a dummy, Obama in less than 100 days have been more dangerous for long-term American security, sovereignty and power than any prior President. Not to mention Obama’s sellout of Poland and East Europe on missile defense and his kowtowing to Kyoto nonsense while getting zippo from China on the issue. His Europe tour was a dazzling display of how to win friends personally and destroy American influence in the process.

So far, he is worse than Carter. Carter was merely naive. Obama OTOH has a programmatic agenda to bring America down a notch, as if our fall from power would be a virtue.

It’s far to early to declare he has ‘kept us safe’. 3 teenagers adrift on the ocean were enough to bring Obama to ‘negotiations’ and he was p-whipped by Iran his *first week*. He wants to defund key DoD programs. Yet curiously wants to do in Afghanistan what Bush did in Iraq, a time and a place fraught with the peril of US retreating should we show lack of resolve; and in the midst of that, the idiocy of speaking of ‘moderate taliban’ and bashing his predecessor to foreign audiences to curry favor. Every argument Obama and his fellow Dems used against involvement in Iraq could be used against what he is planning in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

See, there is a REASON the Demos are viewed as weak on foreign policy. They cant help it, they always put partisan posturing ahead of national security. US sovereignty to Obama is not something to be preserved but An Inconvenience!

The world is not safe while Iran has thousands of centrifuges whirling away, while our troops in Afghanistan face a taliban, and (still) have fewer allies to assist ... beware the error of declaring a conclusion before the facts are in.


43 posted on 04/13/2009 1:46:42 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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