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To: fiodora

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/04/how-the-rescue-happened.html

HOW THE RESCUE HAPPENED
POSTED BY UNCLE JIMBO

I just finished listening to the press conference w/ ADM Gortney about the rescue of Captain Phillips. At the time it happened the USS Bainbridge was towing the lifeboat to calmer waters as the sea state was deteriorating. One of the pirates was on board the Bainbridge as the talks about obtaining Phillip’s release continued. The lifeboat was approx. 25 m behind the Bainbridge when snipers on the fantail observed one of the pirates in the pilot house of the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 at the back of a tied up Phillips and the other two pirates on board were visible (at least shoulders and heads). The standing authority gave them clearance to engage the pirates if the life of the captain was in imminent danger. The on scene commander deemed this to be true and gave the order to fire. All three bad guys were taken out and then a rigid inflatable boat went to the lifeboat to retrieve Phillips. Iti is unknown at this point whether the shooters were SEALs or Marine Scout Snipers as both would have been available. This was not a rescue attempt ordered by National Command Authority i.e. the President. It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.

The AP is reporting that President Obama gave the order to use military force to rescue the hostage, that is misleading.

WASHINGTON (AP)—Administration officials say President Barack Obama approved the military operation that rescued a U.S. captain held hostage by Somali pirates.

The officials say Obama ordered the Defense Department to use military resources to rescue Richard Phillips from a lifeboat off the Somali coast.
He did affirm the military’s authorization to use force if the captain’s life was in danger, but they already would have had that authorization as part of their standard rules of engagement. If there are innocents about to be slaughtered the same reasoning that authorizes self defense also covers an imminent execution unless the ROE specifically forbid it.

The AP is making it sound like there was an active rescue ordered by the President. It was not, there was an imminent threat and the local commander gave the order to fire.

Good on Obama for ensuring their authorization was clear, but let’s also be clear that he did not authorize or order an active rescue attempt.
April 12, 2009


24 posted on 04/12/2009 3:55:45 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu
unknown at this point whether the shooters were SEALs or Marine Scout Snipers as both would have been available.

That thought occurred to me, also. (Not to take away anything from our Seal buddies.)

:)

47 posted on 04/12/2009 4:17:29 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Bobibutu

Bottomline ... FUBO did NOT give the order ... if anything he got in the way


64 posted on 04/12/2009 4:41:11 PM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... protege of the unholy union of Karl Marx and affirmative action)
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To: Bobibutu

“The AP is reporting that President Obama gave the order to use military force to rescue the hostage, that is misleading.”

The woman employed by Maersk gave the official statement from the family today. I noticed that, although there was quite a list of those the family thanked, Hussein was not one of them. Now I understand why.


68 posted on 04/12/2009 4:51:26 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Bobibutu

based on that analysis,

the only Presidential order given by Obama was an executive CYA. (or CMA aka “cover MY *ss and that’s an oder”)


73 posted on 04/12/2009 6:07:56 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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