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"The GOP lost by failing to adhere to their values".

Which "values" did they fail to adhere to? Going after Islamofascism with a vengeance?

Sorry, I don't buy into the popular defeatist "GOP lost its way" mantra. Its quite simple why the Republicans lost. Take the national media and its Democrat party and repeat lies, spin, innuendo and undermine a president long enough, and want him to fail bad enough, and eventually poison a political party into massive losses.

Not to say that ANY political party or any one person doesn't make its share of mistakes. But whenever it happens to the Republicans it is blown 1000 time out of proportion.

Bush was not exactly handed a paradise to preside over by Clinton and the Neo-Kommunists in his administration.

"Lost its values"? Spending the money required to protect America and fight Islamofascism around the world resulting in no further attacks on America for 8 years? Something Clinton SHOULD have been doing instead of playing with cigars and young interns barely out of high school?

Gitmo? You against that? Rather put them on trial in the US and release them near your school?

Rendition? Got a problem with that concept? Seems like a great idea for dealing with these dirtbags, to me anyway.

Waterboarding? Got a problem with that? So Islamofascists should be coddled more than we coddle them now? Do you have any idea of the type of cutthroat scumbags we are dealing with in the WOT that the rat party has declared is over? What about if nukes or biological attacks were immenant on major America cities? Any type of "interrogation" required to stop the attacks ok to use? Or no matter what, we just let ourselves get attacked rather than smack a few prisoners around and put panties on their heads?

Patriot Act? You mean the one that Dems voted overwhelmingly to support multiple times? Seems to me that unless someone is engaged in planning terrorism, not one person ever lost their freedom over it and its helped prevent another attack inside America for many years now.

Seems like all these tools have worked pretty well in preventing further attacks over the last 8 years.

Would you have preferred we never declared war on terror? Wars are very expensive.

Wall street and Barney Frank Financial Market Meltdown - "All Bush's Fault"?

RINO's getting elected here and there? THAT is going to happen no matter what. You will never achieve political purity - not even the Rat party can achieve it, though they are coming as close to Communism as this nation has ever seen. You will never elect a Newt Gingrich or Ronald Reagan in Vermont or other major Blue Z0ne territories / Communist strongholds. Ain't. Gonna. Happen. You may as well get used to that idea. Yeah, we have some of those. And the Rats have their share of DINO's that we love whenever it suits us as well. Zell Miller and Liberman a couple of examples of the most well known.

Spending money required on many large natural disasters that happened over the last 8 years, major hurricanes, massive fires, Tusnami relief, etc? So in your mind we should not have spent the money required to recover from massive natural disasters? You don't think that would have got Bush Impeached? Do you think the media and the Rat party would have given Bush a fair shake or told the truth about Katrina anyway?

No matter what - Bush and his administration got criticized for whatever they did. Even if they had no choice but to do it based on whatever nature had handed America or based on what intelligence they were given.

Truth of the matter is that the Democrats and their media Alinsky method of attacking non-stop 24/7 is highly effective basically through a systematic use of lies and spin.

I say one good turn deserves another at this point. Whatever works.

There is no putting the genie back in the bottle and there is no returning to Mayberry or times of national unity unless you are willing to capitulate your values to the other side and declare them the winner and your ruler.

I say use their own Alinsky tactics against them with a vengeance. That's pretty much what its come down to. You think only the Democrats can employ Alinsky?

That's like early cavemen warriors who ONLY use clubs coming across another tribe who has invented and uses the the spear, bow and arrow and the club. The club wielders see that the bow and arrow clan has superior long range weapons. But the club clan stubbornly and foolishly refuses to adapt. To modernize. To copy and start using the other sides tactics and technology against them. In the end the Bow and Arrow tribe utterly destroys the club wielders and their entire language, borders, culture.

Politics is a dirty cutthroat game. You think the Democrat Party of ACORN and Election Fraud plays by the rules? There is nothing genuine or really very honorable about politics. The days of "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" are long over. It is basically low-level civil war at all times. Even more so as the partisan divide grows.

Whichever side is the most successful in demonizing the other side - wins. Pretty much that simple and we just saw it in the last two elections. High and mighty nobility will get you nowhere in modern politics.

Republicans better learn to grow a pair and fight as dirty as the Rat party - or whatever new conservative party emerges from the ashes of the Republican party. Cause the Leftists are only going to get more savage in their tactics since they now know what works. And they are going to stick with what works.

Which "values" did they fail to adhere to? Going after Islamofascism with a vengeance?

No, spending like drunk sailors and engaging in petty corruption.

All your statements about Gitmo and waterboarding are irrelevant here, because I supported such, and you are quite frankly being insulting with your patronizing approach without having any understanding of my long posting history. If you are going to accuse a Freeper of something, you'd better have your own facts about them straight, lest you look like a blowhard.

Whichever side is the most successful in demonizing the other side - wins.

Reagan. 1980. Won by providing a better vision for this country. GOP. 1994. Contract with America. The GOP won by standing for something - core conservative values. We then lost because the pubbies largely became intoxicated with their own power. We can't out-Democrat the Democrats. People don't trust the GOP to act responsibly, and for good reason. We have to restore that.