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Former SEAL: Taking-out pirates holding American captain "not an operational problem"
Fox News Live
| 4/12/09
Posted on 04/12/2009 7:10:30 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: culpeper
Your post is sooo good, I HAVE TO REPOST IT !
This is why the POTUS needs to born in the USA. 0bama has no idea whose side hes on. Hes a citizen of the earth as the liberals like to say. We are under occupation.
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:33:44 AM PDT
by
NordP
(CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
To: pabianice
There is one operational problem; lack of will at the highest point in the command structure.
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:34:08 AM PDT
by
Keith in Iowa
(ESPN MNF: 3 Putzes talking about football on TV while I'm trying to watch a game.)
To: Nervous Tick
EXCELLENT and sadly true.
And speaking of silly putty, what ever happened to John Edwards?
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:35:30 AM PDT
by
NordP
(CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
To: Nervous Tick
Saw on the banner on FOX that the pirates, aka Jihadis, are ROWING towards the shore. ROWING.
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:35:40 AM PDT
by
bergmeid
(How about another massive nationwide protest against the MSM media on July 4?)
To: NordP
It’s apparently a lot better to watch our nation torn apart than to risk being called a conspiracy theorist. Personally I’ll choose the later.
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:35:40 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
To: LibLieSlayer
How could Hussein possibly attack fellow Muslims? Now if the pirates were lutherans....
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:36:28 AM PDT
by
Oldpuppymax
(AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
To: pabianice
This is a enclosed craft......but the truth is this Cluster Foxtrot is Obamas' and his alone.
The lack of decision making is monumental, I want this man to come home but failure to act now is going to cost us hundreds of lives in the near future.
He has no idea what to do...scratch that he won't hurt his fellow muslims but he will sacrifice Americans
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:36:57 AM PDT
by
Kakaze
(Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
To: rightwingextremist1776
right now. tie a yellow ribbon....
To: culpeper
0bama has no idea whose side hes on. Hes a citizen of the earth as the liberals like to say. We are under occupation.
To: ScottinVA
Vermont... yeesh... wondering if anyone up there in his hometown wonders in the back of their minds (because theyd likely be pilloried for saying anything insulting of 0bama) how Bush would be handling this.In the same vein, I had a conversation yesterday with a known "hope and change" voter who actually admitted that GWB would have handled this incident better than Obama Bin Loafin. I was shocked.
Mr. niteowl77
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:37:50 AM PDT
by
niteowl77
(You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
To: pabianice
So what do you all propose Obama do?? 1. Please take a look at picture of the type of lifeboat we are discussing. It is completely enclosed, and there is no way to "pick them off" because the targets are completely obscured by the lifeboat itself.

2. The same lifeboat structure prevents any "storming" of it as well. The boat is designed to hold passengers, strapped into seats. The interior is divided in two by a set of back-back seats, and that barrier makes it nearly impossible to storm it. 3. That type of lifeboat is built to handle the roughest of seas, and remain afloat. These boats are built like the proverbial brick **it-house. I'm not sure, but I suspect it has enough passive flotation built in that you could saw it in two with a machine gun, and both ends would still float. 4. Go look at a map of the world, find the Horn of Africa, and you will see that area is one of the most isolated placed in the world, which is what enables these pirates to operate the way they do. The US Navy is operating at the very edges of their operational limits, and nobody outside of the on-scene commander really knows what is going on. 5. The US is trying to find a way to keep the hostage alive. If that were not an issue, the destroyers on scene could have opened up on that lifeboat with their deck guns, and destroyed it days ago. As long as the hostage is a live, there is little the Navy can do that won't end up with the death of everyone on that lifeboat. 6. It is perfectly appropriate for the US to "weigh their options" and even more appropriate not to announce what those options are to the world, in advance. 7. There is more than one hostage involved here. There are other vessels that have been hijacked and are still be held hostage with the crews in that area. What about them?? 8. Nothing about the solution to this is going to be easy or neat, but trash-talking about what the Navy or the Administration is or isn't doing is not productive. Like it or not, it takes time for events like these to be worked out, and unfortunately FreeRepublic is not going to be the place where these events are decided. 9. If the President of the United States, no matter who he is or what Party he belongs to, takes too much official notice of a situation like this one, and shows that he is deeply involved, that gives the pirates much higher stature and elevates their importance among their peers. Even commenting in public would be enough to upset whatever negotiations are in progress. Such a move would surely do more harm than good; if you don't believe that, Google "Desert One" and read... If Obama starts making public statements about this, the ransom demand would likely be much higher, just because of the perceived interest of the President. 10. The French rescue yesterday ended with the death of one of the hostages. What would FR have to say if the Navy Seals raid this lifeboat, and the hostage dies as a result?? I'm not offering anyone cover here, just attempting to point out some of the hard realities that exist about this standoff. There is too much pre-judging about events that are not well understood, and we have no good source of live up-to-date information on the scene. I urge everyone to refrain from jumping to too many embarrassing conclusions on this...
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:37:50 AM PDT
by
Bean Counter
(Stout Hearts.....)
To: Melchior
who is the sec. of defense? he/she must be attending an easter egg hunt.
To: bygolly
obama carried that state too.
To: Kozak
Problem is the liberal species arent born with those.
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:39:55 AM PDT
by
culpeper
( When traitors are called heroes, dark times have fallen - Roland Deschain)
To: pabianice
Meanwhile, the French rescue their people.Well, one of the hostages was killed during the rescue.
We could do something similar of course - we could end this thing in 5 minutes. The question is whether we're willing to risk having the captain killed.
The fact that the captain's life is at risk is what makes this situation difficult, not simple. There's more to this than figuring out what to do about 4 guys in a dingy.
To: LibLieSlayer
The Navy is under direct orders from hussein to take NO action without his explicit command. So, Hussein has taken a hardline on this situation after all. So far, he has taken action....to do nothing.
Interesting.
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:40:05 AM PDT
by
Jagdgewehr
(One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard. One faithful harp shall praise thee.)
To: pabianice
Obama is ordering that no action be taken until he can get permission from the ‘international community.
Is this a joke?
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:40:40 AM PDT
by
waxer1
( Live Free or Die; Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death)
To: pabianice
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:41:03 AM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
To: Molly Pitcher
You know what, don’t blame Obama. The Navy was looking like fools on this during Bush too.
Blame the Navy Flag officers for being White House towel holders and third place finishers to limpwrist State Department bow tie wearers, and lawyers.
How embarrassing for the Navy, especially the surface boats.
Just basically glorified taxi drivers for...the FBI.
Let’s see the pecking order
White House Lawyers.
State Department
FBI
..most everybody else
US Navy.
“Doesn’t anyone here know how to play this game?”
Casey Stengel
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:41:09 AM PDT
by
Leisler
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
To: NordP
This is why the POTUS needs to born in the USA. 0bama has no idea whose side hes on. Hes a citizen of the earth as the liberals like to say. We are under occupation.Tim Geithner is the same he spent his formative years in Asia where his dad was a key Ford Foundation operative who even met 0bama's mother a few times
Geithner and 0bama are damaged goods
And Hawaii is such a multi-culti state our first one in fact.
0bomo grew up multi-kulti there and still harbored resentments because he was black or semi-black or semi-Muslim or what have you.
It was multi-kulti back when 0bama grew up there and in Indonesia
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posted on
04/12/2009 7:41:15 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(0gabe our very own Kenyan subprime president)
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