Calling Ronald Wetherington’s Bluffs About Human Evolution (Texas Board of Ed. Testimony)

Discovery Institute ^ | April 9, 2009 | Casey Luskin

[gondramB]

>>Human Evolution is one of the most vile and disgusting lies I have ever had to endure on this earth. The arrogant stupidity of these simpletons makes me both sadden and angry. They are so obsessed with their ridiculous hatred towards creation science that they will believe absolutely any child's fairy tale that opposes creation so they can live their life happy and Godless.<<

The problem with any explanation other than evolution is that we can date fossils and bones and we can see the development as more recent remains get closer and closer to modern humans.

And then molecules, genes and DNA were discovered and matched conclusions that had been drawn from the fossils.

Now, the hostility from a minority of scientists (and frankly from a minority of Christians) is a problem and does poison the well somewhat.

But its best to look beyond the hate from both sides and stick to what we can observe. All the physical evidence points to life developing from simpler organisms into more complex ones and the personal experience with God that millions of Christians have experienced show (at least to those who are open to the experience) that God is real and loves us.

I know its hard to reconcile - I recently posted a vanity Vanity - question for creationists from a Christian who believes in evolution where I asked creationists what it would mean if evidence were found that convinced them of evolution - a substantial portion said it would effect their faith in other ways.

With those kind of stakes I understand that this is an uphill path to reconciliation.

[freedumb2003]

Have a blessed day. Please, try not to be so Hateful, especially on Easter.

[Jaime2099]

"Sorry to burst your bubble, but people are animals too. Of course we see that every day."

I fail to see how the first part of your post proves Evolution from animals, and I 100% disagree with the quote above.

[Fichori]

“Please, try not to be so Hateful,” [excerpt]

Uh, which one of us has a long and glamorous history of threatening and foul posting? (remember, you have directly threatened my person)

But hey, your advice is good.

So, can I expect an apology?

[freedumb2003]

>>So, can I expect an apology?

Sure — sorry.

[Fichori]

Forgiven ;-)

[Jaime2099]

Such hate in your words! My brother, you need to express your love for all, even those with whom you do not agree. Have a blessed day!

My hatred is towards the words and theories that seek to destroy the foundations of the Bible and my God who wrote it through His servants. God said that He created Adam first, and wrote nothing of evolving Adam from an animal. To believe otherwise is to call His word false.

Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible. And, yes, I hate Human Evolution and I am not ashamed of it. I do not hate Human Evolutionist, I hate the false religion they have been taught.

[valkyry1]

We dont look like apes except in the eyes of the evolutionists

[valkyry1]

I hate the false religion they have been taught

And that is what it is, a religion. 

[freedumb2003]

>>Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible. And, yes, I hate Human Evolution and I am not ashamed of it. I do not hate Human Evolutionist, I hate the false religion they have been taught.

Then you hate the Catholic church because they teach Evolution is real and is how God created humans (as do many of us Christians). This is not an accusation, but a conclusion.

I suggest you rethink this “hate” thing...

[freedumb2003]

>>And that is what it is, a religion.

I would just like to point out that science teaches many things. How does one determine what is “religion” and what is not?

[Jaime2099]

"With those kind of stakes I understand that this is an uphill path to reconciliation."

The tone of your post was much appreciated. It is debatable whether bones can be accurately dated or not (see post about Dinosaur bones with soft tissue), so this is hardly proof of Human Evolution. Furthermore, the bones that are being examined could very well be animal bones that were pieced together and have nothing to do with Evolution whatsoever.

To me it all boils down to Adam vs animal. In the Bible God said Adam, so that is where my belief will stay. Choose to believe who you will, but if you are a Christian, I advise you to reconsider your position on Human Evolution. God said Adam not animal.

[Jaime2099]

Then you hate the Catholic church because they teach Evolution is real and is how God created humans (as do many of us Christians). This is not an accusation, but a conclusion.

I suggest you rethink this “hate” thing...

You saying that I hate the Catholic church means nothing other than you place words into peoples mouths. I hate Human Evolution, not anyone who teaches it. Those are two very different things. If you cannot see that, then your blindness is no fault of mine.

[valkyry1]

Which science are you talking about. Men teach things. Science is a word.

[freedumb2003]

>>You saying that I hate the Catholic church means nothing other than you place words into peoples mouths.

Sorry — as I said, it was a conclusion.

>>I hate Human Evolution, not anyone who teaches it. Those are two very different things. If you cannot see that, then your blindness is no fault of mine.

I don’t know how to take that. As I said the RCC teaches it. So you just hate that teaching? Do you find it to be wrong? Immorral? How, therefore, do you reconcile your hatred of the content to those who teach it and embrace it? Is there no relationship at all?

[freedumb2003]

>>Which science are you talking about. Men teach things. Science is a word.

I need to define “science” for you? I will do so, if you wish.

[valkyry1]

Go ahead if that is what you feel a need to do.

[Blue State Insurgent]

Spend sometime at your local zoo and watch a chimpanzee for awhile. You'll see what I mean. But he's as different from our common ancestor as we are. We didn't descend from him at all. We took different evolutionary paths.

[valkyry1]

How do you reconcile your love of evolutionism with the truth of Bible.