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To: Scanian

Here’s a comparison of other Presidential Crises, with American hostage-taking and military/civilians killed (various actions against our civilians and/or actions that we took in response to such crises. It’s a good comparison for what is going on today, as to what has happened in the past with other Presidents...


Presidential Crises - Hostages and/or Killings of Military and Civilians

Nixon — Killed (2), US Diplomats, Black September/Arafat, Sudan
Johnson — Killed (34), USS Liberty, Israel
Johnson — Hostages (82/1 Killed), USS Pueblo, 11 months, North Korea
Johnson — Killed (0), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, N. Vietnamese Torpedo Boats, North Vietnam
Ford — Hostages (21), SS Mayaguez, Khmer Rouge, Cambodia
Ford — Killed (2), Axe Murder Incident (two US Army Soldiers), NK Army, North Korea
Carter — Hostages (52), Tehran Embassy Hostages, 444 days, Iran
Carter — Killed (8), Operation Eagle Claw, C-130, Iran
Reagan — Killed (0/0 foreign; jets shot down), 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (19), Operation Urgent Fury, US Military, Grenada
Reagan — Killed (241), Marine barracks bombing, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Hostages (20), Civilian Hostages, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (5), Civilian/Military Killings, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (6), Zona Rosa Attack, Central America Revolutionary Workers’ Party, El Salvador
Reagan — Killed (3), Berlin Discotheque Bombing, Libyan Intelligence/Gaddafi, West Germany
Reagan — Killed (0/unknown foreign), Operation Attain Document, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (2), Operation El Dorado Canyon, USAF, Libya
Reagan — Killed (290/foreign), Iran Air Flight 655/USS Vincennes, US Military, Persian Gulf/Iran
Reagan — Killed (37), USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31), Iraq Air Force, Iraq
Reagan — Killed (0/2 foreign), 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Bush — Killed (24), Operation Just Cause, US Military, Panama
Clinton — Killed (90), Waco Siege/Branch Davidians, US Government, USA
Clinton — Killed (6), 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Clinton — Killed (168), Oklahoma City Bombing, Domestic/Foreign Terrorists*, USA/Iraq*
Clinton — Killed (19), Black Hawk Down, Islamic Warlords, Somalia
Clinton — Killed (17), USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67), Al Qaeda, port in Yemen
Clinton — Killed (142), TWA Flight 800, Foreign Terrorism [controversial*], Terrorists
Clinton — Killed (19), Khobar Towers Bombing, Hizballah Al-Hijaz [terrorists], Saudi Arabia
Clinton — Killed (12), 1998 US Embassy Bombings, Al Qaeda/Osama bin Ladin, Tanzania/Kenya
Clinton — Killed (0/35 foreign), Operation Infinite Reach, US Air Force, Afghanistan/Sudan
Bush — Hostages (24), Hainan Island incident (EP-3 Aries), 11 days, China
Bush — Killed (2,998), 9/11 Attack, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Bush — Killed (3), US Diplomatic Security Specialists, PA Terrorists, PA Territory/Gaza
Bush — Killed (19), Riyadh Compound Bombings, Islamic Terrorists, Saudi Arabia
Bush — Killed (1), Khobar Massacre, The Jerusalem Squadron/Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia
Obama — Hostages (1), MV Maersk Alabama Piracy, Somalia Pirates, Somalia

Nixon — US Diplomats Killed (Arafat ordered) - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26856
Johnson — USS Liberty Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Johnson — USS Pueblo Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)
Johnson — Gulf of Tonkin Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
Ford — SS Mayaguez Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayagüez_incident
Ford — Axe Murder Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_Murder_Incident
Carter — Iranian Hostage Crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
Carter — Operation Eagle Claw (rescue) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw
Reagan — 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)
Reagan — Operation Urgent Fury - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
Reagan — Marine Barracks bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
Reagan — Hostages in Lebanon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
Reagan — Zona Rosa Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Zona_Rosa_attacks
Reagan — Operation El Dorado Canyon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon
Reagan — Iran Air Flight 655 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Reagan — USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_(FFG-31)
Reagan — Operation Attain Document - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_in_the_Gulf_of_Sidra_(1986)
Reagan — 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1989)
Bush — Operation Just Cause - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama
Clinton — Waco Siege/Branch Davidians - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege
Clinton — 1993 World Trade Center Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
Clinton — Oklahoma City Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
[ *controversial - http://www.jaynadavis.com/ ]
Clinton — Black Hawk Down - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
Clinton — USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
Clinton — TWA Flight 800 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
[ *controversial - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800_alternative_theories - http://twa800.com/ ]
Clinton — Khobar Towers Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing
Clinton — 1998 US Embassy Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings
Clinton — Operation Infinite Reach - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infinite_Reach
Bush — Hainan Island incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
Bush — 9/11 Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11
Bush — US Diplomatic Security Specialist Murders - http://www.nysun.com/opinion/getting-away-with-murder/68852/
Bush — Riyadh Compound Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_compound_bombings
Bush — Khobar Massacre - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_May_2004_Al-Khobar_massacres
Obama — MV Maersk Alabama Piracy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Maersk_Alabama

Please help add more so I can update this. If there is another event that happened within a particular President’s term (hostages taken, military killed in actions regarding the crisis, etc...), give me the info and any pertinent links. Still working on it and adding information...

This originally started as “two items” only on this thread... LOL...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2226437/posts?page=5#5

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2226437/posts?page=10#10


7 posted on 04/10/2009 7:15:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

good work!


20 posted on 04/10/2009 7:26:00 PM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: Star Traveler
Please help add more so I can update this. If there is another event that happened within a particular President’s term (hostages taken, military killed in actions regarding the crisis, etc...), give me the info and any pertinent links. Still working on it and adding information...

For starters, there's the sinking of the Lusitania, the Sussex, and other ships by the Germans during the Wilson administration, as well as the Black Tom Island blast in 1916 that has been linked to Germany. During FDR's tenure, the Japanese sank the Panay in 1937, and a German sub sent the destroyer Reuben James to the bottom in 1941.

23 posted on 04/10/2009 7:29:53 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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