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To: Vendome

Hi there... :-)

You said — Please have faith in your fellow Americans and God.

Well, I do have faith in other Christians, it’s the majority (who are non-Christians) that I don’t have faith in, and who have caused the country to go “non-Christian”.... (for quite a while, actually).

But, that’s no surprise, actually, as it is apparent from what the Bible says that this will happen. And it’s happening all right...

Another way to put it is that “nations” are not saved by the Gospel, only individuals are. Nations are judged in “real-time” by their actions, on a “corporate level” (as a “group” all together...).

So, with that measure, and since “nations” can’t be “saved” (by the Gospel), as only individuals can be — this nation simply is not a Christian nation. And that really has nothing, at all, to do with any one individual or a group of individuals who may be Christians because they are saved by means of the Gospel and having accepted it.

You’re talking about two completely separate things here. Individuals being saved by grace, upon their acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Savior, having understood the Gospel message — and then — a “nation” which cannot be “saved” (nations are never “saved”, they can’t be) and is only *judged* on the basis of its corporate actions. And we see what those “corporate actions” are in the United States. That’s why it’s not a Christian nation, while there are Christians “in the nation”...


21 posted on 04/10/2009 9:06:25 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

I was talking about individual salvation. Of course, nations are not saved by the Gospel, only a person and soul can be.

The rest of your post I agree with.

I was attempting to be cheery and ask we all pray this weekend.


23 posted on 04/10/2009 9:15:50 AM PDT by Vendome
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