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To: Cicero
Kinsey’s sexual revolution has caused major social problems, an epidemic of disease and the breakdown of the family...

Freedom, especially from Victorian societal and religious oversight, is still a rather new experiment. I'd argue that the ‘sexual revolution’ was coming to a free society one way or another. Kinsey is a bad scientist with bad methodology and that leads to bad data. So he didn't help matters, but freedom is a messy wonderful thing. I think we as a society are still struggling to grow up and take responsibility for our freedom. Think of the sexual morays and rational thought process of an 18 year old vs. a 35 year old. A Republic is the only government I know of that assigns integrity and dignity to the individual-with civil rights comes civil responsibility, and more importantly personal responsibility.
Kinsey is not more responsible for the difficult societal journey to maturity than the Catholic Church's pathetic lip service (and no action) to its predatory pedophiliac priest issue. I trust the Republic will move towards maturity despite all the problems of Freedom without responsibility.

13 posted on 04/11/2009 6:14:53 AM PDT by TooFarGone (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: TooFarGone

Sounds as if you’ve drunk the koolaid. That Catholic Church had no more “pedophilia” than any other organization at that time—in fact a good deal less. And, with very few exceptions, it wasn’t actually pedophilia, as the press pretended, but homosexuality with teenage or older victims. And the source was not in the Church, but in the so-called Sexual Revolution, which infected some members of the Church.

A few bishops did play along and cover it up. Most of them are now out. And most of the scandals that were broken were from the 1970s, the height of the “sexual revolution.”

A free Republic can only survive if a sufficient number of its citizens are morally mature and willing to restrain themselves, rather than be restrained by the law and the police. De Tocqueville makes that case extremely persuasively. The ONLY way that the Republic can survive is through morality, and the only really stable base for morality is religion.

Christianity (and Judaism in lesser numbers) is such a religion, since it teaches both morality AND free will. That’s why the Founders based their whole experiment on inalienable, God-given rights and freedoms. Islam or Hinduism would not work, for instance, because one is arbitrary and tyrannical and the other is caste-ridden.

But our Republic did very well as long as it was Christian. It will not survive if the values of the 60s countercultural revolution prevail.


15 posted on 04/11/2009 7:57:18 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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